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Is Baptism part of the gospel?

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  • #46
    Nowhere in the word of God is the baptism [immersion] an essential in order to have eternal life. Nowhere does the word of God teach being unbaptized that any person shall perish for the reason of not being baptized [immersed].
    . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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    • #47
      Originally posted by 37818 View Post
      Nowhere in the word of God is the baptism [immersion] an essential in order to have eternal life. Nowhere does the word of God teach being unbaptized that any person shall perish for the reason of not being baptized [immersed].
      Imu, everyone on this thread agrees with your statement/s (????)

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      • #48
        Originally posted by 37818 View Post
        Nowhere in the word of God is the baptism [immersion] an essential in order to have eternal life. Nowhere does the word of God teach being unbaptized that any person shall perish for the reason of not being baptized [immersed].

        Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38

        Does this verse say that baptism into the name of Christ results in remission of sins?
        If a person's sins have not been remitted, what is the outcome with regard to eternal life?

        For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Galatians 3:27

        What is the outcome with regard to eternal life for the one who has not put on Christ?

        There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 1 Peter 3:21

        Does baptism save a person?
        Does baptism remove dirt from the flesh?
        Does removing the dirt from the flesh result in being saved?
        What makes baptism effective?
        1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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        but that won't prevent others from
        taking it upon themselves to deprive you
        of the right to call yourself Christian.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by 37818 View Post


          ". . . And Peter [said] unto them, Repent ye, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto the remission of your sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. . . ." -- Acts 2:38.


          ". . . And Peter said unto them, Repent ye, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto the remission of your sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. . . ."

          ". . . To him bear all the prophets witness, that through his name every one that believeth on him shall receive remission of sins. While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all them that heard the word. . . ." -- Acts 10:43-44.

          ". . . And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on his name. . . ." -- Acts 22:16.


          1. ". . . arise, . . ."

          2. "and be baptized, . . ."

          3. "and wash away thy sins, calling on his name."

          ". . . If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. . . ." -- 1 John 1:9.

          ". . . Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: . . ." -- Matthew 28:19.


          ". . . Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, . . ."

          "baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: . . ."

          Typically baptists call this believers baptism.
          Those who are willfully blind will not see.
          Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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          • #50
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            Those who are willfully blind will not see.
            Matthew 13:14; Isaiah 6:9-10; Ezekiel 12:2...

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            • #51
              Acts 8: 14-17 (TBM Version: Provisional)
              14 ακουσαντες δε οι εν ιεροσολυμοις αποστολοι οτι δεδεκται η σαμαρεια τον λογον του θεου απεστειλαν προς αυτους τον πετρον και ιωαννην 15 οιτινες καταβαντες προσηυξαντο περι αυτων, οπως λαβωσιν πνευμα αγιον 16 ουπω γαρ ην επ ουδενι αυτων επιπεπτωκος μονον δε βεβαπτισμενοι υπηρχον εις το ονομα του χριστου ιησου 17 τοτε επετιθουν τας χειρας επ αυτους και ελαμβανον πνευμα αγιον

              The apostles in Jerusalem having heard that Samaria had received the word of God sent to them John and Peter, who, when they had come down , prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit: he having not until then fallen on any of them - but they had only been baptised into the name of the Lord Jesus.Then they lay hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit.
              According to this verse:


              1. To the people of what region were the apostles sent?
              2. Had those people been baptised?
              3. What baptism had been performed?
              4. Which of the apostles were sent to those people?
              5. Did those apostles conduct baptisms for the nominated people?
              6. If so, which baptism would it have been?



              Acts 19: 1-6 (Literal Version: J. P. Green Sr.)
              ... Paul, passing through the higher parts, came to Ephesus. And finding some disciples, (he) said to them, “Believing, did you receive (the) Holy Spirit?” And they said to him, “We did not even hear whether there is (the) Holy Spirit.” And he said to them, “Then to what were you baptized?” And they said “To the baptism of John” And Paul said “John indeed baptized (with) a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe into the (one) coming after him, that is, into the Christ, Jesus.” And hearing, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. And Paul laying hands on them, they received the Holy Spirit and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.


              7. Where were the people who had been baptised into John’s baptism?
              8. Is John’s baptism the same as baptism into the name of Christ?
              9. Who conducted the baptism into the name of Christ for these people?
              10. Did these people receive the Holy Spirit while they were being baptised into the name of Christ?
              11. What signs accompanied their reception of the Holy Spirit?


              Comparing these records


              12. Is there only one form of baptism in Christian practice?
              13. Are baptism into the name of Christ, baptism into the Holy Spirit, John’s baptism the same?
              14. What was Paul’s response when he heard that the believers had not received the Holy Spirit?
              15. Is it reasonable to assume that Paul considered baptism into the name of Christ unnecessary?
              1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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              Scripture before Tradition:
              but that won't prevent others from
              taking it upon themselves to deprive you
              of the right to call yourself Christian.

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