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While this area is for the discussion of these doctrines within historic Christianity, all theists interested in discussing these areas within the presuppositions of and respect for the Christian framework are welcome to participate here. This is not the area for debate between nontheists and theists, additionally, there may be some topics that within the Moderator's discretion fall so outside the bounds of mainstream evangelical doctrine that may be more appropriately placed within Comparative Religions 101 Nontheists seeking only theistic participation only in a manner that does not seek to undermine the faith of others are also welcome - but we ask that Moderator approval be obtained beforehand.
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostDiscuss the awesomeness of God. Because He is awesome. Creating everything is awesome. The incarnation and resurrection and everything in between is awesome.
God is Awesome in the way that you just stand (or sit or lay) in awe. THAT kind of Awesome.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAwesome in WAY more than people use the word "awesome" today -- like "that concert was AWESOME".
God is Awesome in the way that you just stand (or sit or lay) in awe. THAT kind of Awesome.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostThe kind of awe that's scary. In a good way?
Rev 1:17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Creation is the empirical evidence of God (Genesis 1:1; Psalm 19:1-4; Romans 10:17-18; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-18). And He has put knowing even in us, ". . . Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; . . . " (Romans 1:18-19). Yet because of the fall (Romans 5:12) we not having the good news of Christ's death and resurrection being told to us, are oblivious to this truth. ". . . There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
That we can know God as a Person through His Son is awesome, in this is how we have and know we have eternal life.
". . . And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." -- John 17:3.
". . . He that hath the Son hath life; . . . that ye may know that ye have eternal life, . . . And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life." -- 1 John 12, 13, 20.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostWe do not have enough awe of the Lord.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, Jesus is not "my buddy".. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Not big fans of John 15? I understand emphasizing his lordship, but He told the Twelve He was their friend, and I feel perfectly comfortable with Jesus being both my Lord and my friend, these are not mutually exclusive.Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5
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Originally posted by Pentecost View PostNot big fans of John 15? I understand emphasizing his lordship, but He told the Twelve He was their friend, and I feel perfectly comfortable with Jesus being both my Lord and my friend, these are not mutually exclusive.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Pentecost View PostNot big fans of John 15? I understand emphasizing his lordship, but He told the Twelve He was their friend, and I feel perfectly comfortable with Jesus being both my Lord and my friend, these are not mutually exclusive.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post"Friend" can be WAY different than "buddy".
Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostI don't see what kind of application John 15 has to the question of whether Jesus is our buddy/friend or not. As you've already indicated, Jesus words there are intended for the Twelve, I don't see how it is applicable to every Christian ever to walk on this earth.Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
As well, the line "scorned by the ones He came to save" illustrates His omni-benevolent love and heroic sacrifice. Imagine enduring what Jesus suffered for those who hate you. That is truly divine love, a level of compassion and sheer goodness that should make us stand in utter awe.
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