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  • God is Awesome!

    Discuss the awesomeness of God. Because He is awesome. Creating everything is awesome. The incarnation and resurrection and everything in between is awesome.
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

  • #2
    Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    Discuss the awesomeness of God. Because He is awesome. Creating everything is awesome. The incarnation and resurrection and everything in between is awesome.
    Awesome in WAY more than people use the word "awesome" today -- like "that concert was AWESOME".

    God is Awesome in the way that you just stand (or sit or lay) in awe. THAT kind of Awesome.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Awesome in WAY more than people use the word "awesome" today -- like "that concert was AWESOME".

      God is Awesome in the way that you just stand (or sit or lay) in awe. THAT kind of Awesome.
      The kind of awe that's scary. In a good way?
      If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
        The kind of awe that's scary. In a good way?
        Could actually be! Like when John was so awed by the presence of Christ that he fell as a dead man.

        Rev 1:17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last.
        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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        • #5
          We do not have enough awe of the Lord.


          Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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          • #6
            Creation is the empirical evidence of God (Genesis 1:1; Psalm 19:1-4; Romans 10:17-18; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-18). And He has put knowing even in us, ". . . Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; . . . " (Romans 1:18-19). Yet because of the fall (Romans 5:12) we not having the good news of Christ's death and resurrection being told to us, are oblivious to this truth. ". . . There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

            That we can know God as a Person through His Son is awesome, in this is how we have and know we have eternal life.

            ". . . And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." -- John 17:3.

            ". . . He that hath the Son hath life; . . . that ye may know that ye have eternal life, . . . And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life." -- 1 John 12, 13, 20.
            . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

            . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

            Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mossrose View Post
              We do not have enough awe of the Lord.
              Yeah, Jesus is not "my buddy".
              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Yeah, Jesus is not "my buddy".
                He is our Lord and Savior. By whom we know God. God is not our buddy - He is the awesome God. Which without Christ's holiness we cannot approach.
                . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

                . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

                Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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                • #9
                  Not big fans of John 15? I understand emphasizing his lordship, but He told the Twelve He was their friend, and I feel perfectly comfortable with Jesus being both my Lord and my friend, these are not mutually exclusive.
                  Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pentecost View Post
                    Not big fans of John 15? I understand emphasizing his lordship, but He told the Twelve He was their friend, and I feel perfectly comfortable with Jesus being both my Lord and my friend, these are not mutually exclusive.
                    "Friend" can be WAY different than "buddy".
                    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                    • #11
                      God is quite awesome, isn't he?

                      May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. (2Cor. 13:14).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Pentecost View Post
                        Not big fans of John 15? I understand emphasizing his lordship, but He told the Twelve He was their friend, and I feel perfectly comfortable with Jesus being both my Lord and my friend, these are not mutually exclusive.
                        I don't see what kind of application John 15 has to the question of whether Jesus is our buddy/friend or not. As you've already indicated, Jesus words there are intended for the Twelve, I don't see how it is applicable to every Christian ever to walk on this earth.
                        ~Formerly known as Chrawnus~

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          "Friend" can be WAY different than "buddy".
                          I absolutely agree. Buddies don't care what shenannagans you get up to so long as they can come too, friends are ready to come along beside you and help you through your troubles.

                          Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
                          I don't see what kind of application John 15 has to the question of whether Jesus is our buddy/friend or not. As you've already indicated, Jesus words there are intended for the Twelve, I don't see how it is applicable to every Christian ever to walk on this earth.
                          By telling that to the Twelve it means that any human who interacts with Him has the potential to be his friend, and I am not certain that all Christians can call Christ friend, but I think all mature Christians may.
                          Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5

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                          • #14



                            What do y'all think of this hymn?
                            If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post



                              What do y'all think of this hymn?
                              That's one of my favorite songs as it tells the story of Jesus and I feel it also draws attention to His power and indeed awesomeness. Especially the line "no power of hell, no scheme of man/can ever pluck me from His hand"--Jesus is sovereign and almighty and those of us who call Him Lord can rest in the knowledge that nobody can oppose Him. He has overcome the world.

                              As well, the line "scorned by the ones He came to save" illustrates His omni-benevolent love and heroic sacrifice. Imagine enduring what Jesus suffered for those who hate you. That is truly divine love, a level of compassion and sheer goodness that should make us stand in utter awe.

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