Is ordination of women to be Pastors [Overseer/Bishop] orthodox?

[37818]

Not a fan of Carm's definition of Unorthodox as I believe in Ordination of women is practical for many churches

Two questions: What is incorrect about CARM's definition of what is Unorthodox? On what bases is the making of women to become Pastors orthodox?

[Thoughtful Monk]

How about a link to CARM's definition of Unorthodox? I looked around at the site and couldn't find one.

[robrecht]

How about a link to CARM's definition of Unorthodox? I looked around at the site and couldn't find one.

Click on Catholicity's quote in the opening post and you can see the initial discussion. Basically, here the issue is merely that they consider the ordination of women as pastors to be unorthodox.

[Catholicity]

The first place to affirm a Woman's Role in the beginning of the Church's Ministry is in the Book of Acts.

12 Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day's journey away. 13 And when they had entered, they went up to the upper room, where they were staying, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot and Judas the son of James. 14 All these with one accord were devoting themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.

We should never be too Hasty to forget that women and of Course Blessed Mother Mary begin here by praying in one accord in the upper room near pentecost. This of course signifying the beginning of the Church. Men and Women alike praying over the start of the ministry of Jesus when the Holy Spirit comes.

[Obsidian]

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach . . . .

[Jedidiah]

Click on Catholicity's quote in the opening post and you can see the initial discussion. Basically, here the issue is merely that they consider the ordination of women as pastors to be unorthodox.

I am confused. What I saw there was CARM's description of the WWCG's view of orthodoxy. That is not CARM giving their own.

[Adrift]

In reference to female authority figures within the early church, Mark Goodacre has a terrific (8 minute) podcast episode on the Apostle Junia mentioned in Romans 16:7.

[Cow Poke]

OK, get your rocks and stones ready.....

1 Tim 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

[dacristoy]

OK, get your rocks and stones ready.....

1 Tim 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

[Thoughtful Monk]

Once I understood where the link was, that's what I saw, too. Does CARM give a statement of Orthodoxy?

[Cow Poke]

Thanks. I needed that.

[Catholicity]

In addition to the reference to the Apostle Junia that Romans gives there is also a greeting to Pheobe

I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant[a] of the church at Cenchreae, 2 that you may welcome her in the Lord in a way worthy of the saints, and help her in whatever she may need from you, for she has been a patron of many and of myself as well.

And Prisca (english Priscilla) the wife of Aquila beginning in Romans 16:3 who had and lead both a house Church here

3 Greet Prisca and Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus, 4 who risked their necks for my life, to whom not only I give thanks but all the churches of the Gentiles give thanks as well. 5 Greet also the church in their house.

Now Cow Poke, I respect you as a pastor...but here is an example of a woman and her husband BOTH leading a church.

[Catholicity]

May have read Carm wrong, but now I get to go onto a new theology topic

[Cow Poke]

INow Cow Poke, I respect you as a pastor...but here is an example of a woman and her husband BOTH leading a church.

Were they co-pastors?

[KingsGambit]

The question is if it's "orthodox". Does this violate any major creed?

I know that's not the end-be-all, because creeds also don't say anything about, say, sexual ethics. But "unorthodox" implies a major breach.