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While this area is for the discussion of these doctrines within historic Christianity, all theists interested in discussing these areas within the presuppositions of and respect for the Christian framework are welcome to participate here. This is not the area for debate between nontheists and theists, additionally, there may be some topics that within the Moderator's discretion fall so outside the bounds of mainstream evangelical doctrine that may be more appropriately placed within Comparative Religions 101 Nontheists seeking only theistic participation only in a manner that does not seek to undermine the faith of others are also welcome - but we ask that Moderator approval be obtained beforehand.
Atheists are welcome to discuss and debate these issues in the Apologetics 301 or General Theistics 101 forum without such restrictions. Theists who wish to discuss these issues outside the parameters of orthodox Christian doctrine are invited to Unorthodox Theology 201.
Remember, our forum rules apply here as well. If you haven't read them now would be a good time.
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Originally posted by thormas View Post
How many 'born-again' people have we heard of and then have also heard of their sin? Please, born again is not a once and done.
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Originally posted by Dave L View Post
Paul was born-again on the road to Damascus. How stupid would he be if he chose to sin?
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Originally posted by footwasher View Post
There is no difference between born again and not born again believers: both can choose, but both cannot be sinless. Free will means being able to choose. Sinlessness means being able to be sinless. Even non-believers can choose. But no one is able to follow through, not sin.
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Originally posted by Dave L View Post
God controls all, including what people or animals think, and do, in a way where any change of predetermined course is impossible.
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Originally posted by Dave L View Post
sinful natures cannot choose sinlessness. Born again people cannot habitually sin, they have new sinless natures.
Do you know history? Jimmy Carter, a born again Christian and President of the US, even confessed his own sin of 'lusting after women in his heart.'
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Originally posted by thormas View Post
Foot washer is correct on this.
Do you know history? Jimmy Carter, a born again Christian and President of the US, even confessed his own sin of 'lusting after women in his heart.'
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Originally posted by thormas View Post
If that is the case then there is no sin, then Adam never sinned, then there is no original sin...........because sin assumes choice. If there is no choice, we are not blameworthy and we have no need of beings saved because we, literally, didn't do it.
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