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Soyeong: Born Again

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  • Soyeong: Born Again

    Howdy Soyeong

    If you would be so kind, can you please explain:

    1) What does it mean to be "born again"?

    2) How does one become "born again"?

    3) What does the "new birth" look like in the life of an individual who has been "born again"?

    Thanks very much!

  • #2
    Jesus describes this in John Chapter 3. I think He does a better job than I could.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    • #3
      Since Cow Poke took the initiative to comment on Soyeong's questions, I'll give a 2 cents:

      Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
      1) What does it mean to be "born again"?
      As Cow Poke indicated, very simply, observing the Spirit of the Law because you want to do the right thing vs. Flesh of the Law because you have to do the right thing so you don't get punished. Both of which are addressed in Jesus' Woes to Pharisees in Matthew 23 and elsewhere.

      Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
      2) How does one become "born again"?
      My opinion is Beatitudes and Lord's Prayer first in Matthew 5-6 as a very simple start to align yourself with God's will. Baptism as a mikveh can come later as an outward display of your determination to follow this path.

      Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
      3) What does the "new birth" look like in the life of an individual who has been "born again"?
      Very simply (again and again) you will have joy observing God's will, rather than fear if you don't.

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      Now this may not apply to every person. Some like drug addicts and criminals may be pushed into it because their lives are just so miserable. It doesn't mean everyone is going to run to God for joy. But ultimately, we should enjoy serving God, rather than seeing it as a duty or burden. Where otherwise may indicate that in our hearts, we aren't serving God at all, but rather, serving fear of punishment if we don't serve God.

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      • #4
        Thanks guys, I don't mind if you respond but at this point I would like to read Soy's response first before I further delve into the topic.

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        • #5
          Use the Exodus event as a template. Did all the Children of Israel see the Kingdom of God? Nope, only Joshua and Caleb. Didn't the former turn away from the world (Egypt) and pledge loyalty to God? Sure, but that wasn't enough. In addition to turning away from the world, J & C turned away from self. Loyalty to God is a metanoia, change of mind, often mistranslated as "repent". It is adaptive, requiring a rethink in every situation: I choose God, not the world. I choose God, not myself.

          It's only when you are solidly for God that you can see the Land flowing with milk and honey, not harm inflicting giants.

          People drink from the Rock, learn from the Bible. When they read the life-threatening passages, they want to go back to Egypt. Of course it's another matter that the hard teachings aren't taught...
          Last edited by footwasher; 01-29-2014, 08:41 AM.

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