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Kenosis- Split from Pop preachers

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    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post

    You are reading your conclusion into this.

    No saint, while living, would ever accept proskuneo, just like the apostles never did and angels never did (you neglected to reference them in your response). Jesus alone never rejected it - because, as you say, he wasn't worried about being mistaken for God. If he'd consciously given up his divinity, you'd think he'd be meticulous about rejecting it as well.
    Report has it that in common with the Church of Rome, Eastern church Patriarchs and bishops accept proskuneo (which includes bowing, kneeling, kissing finger-rings) from their subordinates and the laity. Are you claiming that the reports are false, or are the said Patriarchs and bishops are acting in violation of the scriptural injunction?
    Last edited by tabibito; 09-26-2023, 06:46 AM.
    1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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    Scripture before Tradition:
    but that won't prevent others from
    taking it upon themselves to deprive you
    of the right to call yourself Christian.

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