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Does the "except clause" of Matthew 19:9 allow divorce and remarriage?

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  • Does the "except clause" of Matthew 19:9 allow divorce and remarriage?

    “And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.” Matthew 19:9 (KJV 1900)

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    To my reading, it permits divorce in the case of unfaithfulness. It does seem to block remarriage.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
      To my reading, it permits divorce in the case of unfaithfulness. It does seem to block remarriage.
      There is no divorce provision under the New Covenant.

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      • #4
        I knew a Pastor who hated his wife. He treated her harshly in order to drive her into someone else's arms. He thought she would then divorce and commit adultery by remarrying. This supposedly would allow him to remarry. This all happened and he remarried thinking he was entitled to do so. But if you study Matthew 19:9 closely, it does not allow for divorce and remarriage at all.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dave L View Post

          There is no divorce provision under the New Covenant.
          Jesus specifically said that divorce is allowed in cases of infidelity. If you are denying that then you are calling Jesus a liar.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post

            Jesus specifically said that divorce is allowed in cases of infidelity. If you are denying that then you are calling Jesus a liar.
            What about this? The innocent wife divorced from an adulterous husband along with her new husband also commit adultery when they marry. Jesus says the man (part B of the verse) who marries her also commits adultery.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dave L View Post
              I knew a Pastor who hated his wife. He treated her harshly in order to drive her into someone else's arms. He thought she would then divorce and commit adultery by remarrying. This supposedly would allow him to remarry. This all happened and he remarried thinking he was entitled to do so. But if you study Matthew 19:9 closely, it does not allow for divorce and remarriage at all.
              Why should I not be surprised that the circles you run in would include such a man? (IF, in fact, this is a true story)
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dave L View Post

                      What about this? The innocent wife divorced from an adulterous husband along with her new husband also commit adultery when they marry. Jesus says the man (part B of the verse) who marries her also commits adultery.
                      No he doesn't. He just says unless you divorce for infidelity you can't remarry. Not that you cannot remarry if you do divorce for infidelity. In that case you can remarry from the way I read it.


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                        No he doesn't. He just says unless you divorce for infidelity you can't remarry. Not that you cannot remarry if you do divorce for infidelity. In that case you can remarry from the way I read it.
                        All four mentioned are committing adultery. (1) The wicked husband and wife (2).
                        The innocent wife (1) and (2) the innocent man who marries her.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dave L View Post

                          All four mentioned are committing adultery. (1) The wicked husband and wife (2).
                          The innocent wife (1) and (2) the innocent man who marries her.
                          You can come up with as many overly convoluted examples as you want, but Jesus clearly said that you are allowed to divorce your wife if she commits infidelity/fornication. And there is nothing that says that the man cannot remarry after he does that. You should not add to the scripture Dave.

                          9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

                          The "except for sexual immorality" is a parenthetic exemption from the statement: 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife ... and marries another woman commits adultery.”

                          So if she commits sexual immorality then that negates the law that he cannot divorce and remarry.

                          1. Man divorces wife for some other reason - wrong. If he remarries then he commits adultery.
                          2. Man divorces wife for infidelity - allowed. If he remarries he does not commit adultery.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                            You can come up with as many overly convoluted examples as you want, but Jesus clearly said that you are allowed to divorce your wife if she commits infidelity/fornication. And there is nothing that says that the man cannot remarry after he does that. You should not add to the scripture Dave.

                            9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

                            The "except for sexual immorality" is a parenthetic exemption from the statement: 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife ... and marries another woman commits adultery.”

                            So if she commits sexual immorality then that negates the law that he cannot divorce and remarry.

                            1. Man divorces wife for some other reason - wrong. If he remarries then he commits adultery.
                            2. Man divorces wife for infidelity - allowed. If he remarries he does not commit adultery.


                            Look at it in Young's Literal Translation... [ bolding mine, of course ]

                            'And I say to you, that, whoever may put away his wife, if not for whoredom, and may marry another, doth commit adultery; and he who did marry her that hath been put away, doth commit adultery.'
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post



                              Look at it in Young's Literal Translation... [ bolding mine, of course ]

                              'And I say to you, that, whoever may put away his wife, if not for whoredom, and may marry another, doth commit adultery; and he who did marry her that hath been put away, doth commit adultery.'
                              Yep and really he is not even denying that you can't divorce your wife for other reasons, just that if you do, then you can't remarry without committing adultery. The only way to avoid committing adultery by remarrying is to divorce because of infidelity.

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