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  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

    I wasn't gonna go there.
    Who is getting a beating, being left flabbergasted, with no answers to queries, running away?

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    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

      I wasn't gonna go there.
      Ah - but look at what he said about himself.

      The same ones you are taking the lead from!
      And of course, such a one will certainly misidentify others.
      1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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      Scripture before Tradition:
      but that won't prevent others from
      taking it upon themselves to deprive you
      of the right to call yourself Christian.

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      • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

        Ah - but look at what he said about himself.



        And of course, such a one will certainly misidentify others.
        Prove it. Shed light on what receiving the Holy Spirit means, in your own experience.

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        • Originally posted by footwasher View Post
          Who is getting a beating, being left flabbergasted, with no answers to queries, running away?
          Ah, gone back to that silly "running away" nonsense. You tried that before, and I'm still here, Junior.

          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

            Ah, gone back to that silly "running away" nonsense. You tried that before, and I'm still here, Junior.
            With no words to express your 'receiving of the Holy Spirit'. No explanation, never happened.

            You are here in a nominative way. You are just using up oxygen.
            Last edited by footwasher; 09-24-2021, 09:15 PM.

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            • Originally posted by footwasher View Post

              Prove it. Shed light on what receiving the Holy Spirit means, in your own experience.
              You have identified yourself with your own words, Scevason.

              Receiving the Holy Spirit results in being opposed by those who love the world, being accused by false brothers, empowerment to overcome sin, and authorisation to become a son of God. That it just a start of the implications of receiving the Holy Spirit.

              One of the other implications of receiving the Holy Spirit is that the recipient gets to preach gospel with actual power.
              1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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              Scripture before Tradition:
              but that won't prevent others from
              taking it upon themselves to deprive you
              of the right to call yourself Christian.

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              • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                Ah - but look at what he said about himself.

                And of course, such a one will certainly misidentify others.
                He seems to have a lot more in common with ... um....

                Scripture Verse: Rev 12:10

                ...for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

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                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                  You have identified yourself with your own words, Scevason.

                  Receiving the Holy Spirit results in being opposed by those who love the world, being accused by false brothers, empowerment to overcome sin, and authorisation to become a son of God. That it just a start of the implications of receiving the Holy Spirit.

                  One of the other implications of receiving the Holy Spirit is that the recipient gets to preach gospel with actual power.
                  Not even close.

                  Heb 6
                  4It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age— 6and then have fallen away—to be restored to repentance, because they themselves are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting Him to open shame.

                  it builds up your faith, courage, because you need it to enter Rest.

                  Num 14
                  24But as for My servant Caleb, because he has had a different spirit and has followed Me fully, I will bring him into the land which he entered, and his descendants shall take possession of it.

                  Only in the Kingdom can you unpack Scripture and manifest the presence of God, His finger, with you, leading to subduing the world, in turn gaining treasure that does not rust or perish, eternal treasure!

                  John 3
                  2He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.”

                  3Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.a
                  ...

                  And again, it's resistible.
                  Last edited by footwasher; 09-24-2021, 09:12 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by footwasher View Post

                    Not even close.
                    If you believe that you are a know-nothing appointing himself as a teacher.
                    1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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                    Scripture before Tradition:
                    but that won't prevent others from
                    taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                    of the right to call yourself Christian.

                    ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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                    • Originally posted by footwasher View Post
                      With no words to express your 'receiving of the Holy Spirit'. No explanation, never happened.

                      You are here in a nominative way.
                      Sure, Junior. Whatever you say.

                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                        He seems to have a lot more in common with ... um....

                        Scripture Verse: Rev 12:10

                        ...for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

                        © Copyright Original Source



                        You're judging me?

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                        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          Sure, Junior. Whatever you say.
                          More waste of oxygen. Try to contribute.

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                          • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                            If you believe that you are a know-nothing appointing himself as a teacher.
                            Instead of ad Homs, address the argument. Show that you have some substance.

                            And try not to miss the point, again: it's not my teaching, I'm not taking credit for it. That being the whole point of the exercise:

                            Deuteronomy 3250Then you are to die on the mountain where you ascend, and be gathered to your people, as Aaron your brother died on Mount Hor and was gathered to his people, 51because you broke faith with Me in the midst of the sons of Israel at the waters of Meribah-kadesh, in the wilderness of Zin, because you did not treat Me as holy in the midst of the sons of Israel. 52For you will see the land at a distance but you will not go there, into the land which I am giving the sons of Israel.”
                            Last edited by footwasher; 09-24-2021, 09:23 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by footwasher View Post

                              More waste of oxygen. Try to contribute.
                              I'll tell you what, Junior.... Since you're smarter than God and have all these other posters hanging on every word you say, amening you, and agreeing with all your little delusions, I'll step aside, and you can pretend I ran away because you're so incredibly awesome.

                              Buhbye.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • Originally posted by cow poke View Post

                                i'll tell you what, junior.... Since you're smarter than god and have all these other posters hanging on every word you say, amening you, and agreeing with all your little delusions, i'll step aside, and you can pretend i ran away because you're so incredibly awesome.

                                Buhbye.
                                qed
                                Good call. At least you're not a waste of space anymore. Too bad it only takes delusions to drive you away. Just imagine what happens when Truth makes its appearance.

                                Acts 19
                                13But also some of the Jewish exorcists, who went from place to place, attempted to [f]use the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had the evil spirits, saying, “I order you in the name of Jesus whom Paul preaches!” 14Now there were seven sons of [g]Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, doing this. 15But the evil spirit responded and said to them, “I recognize Jesus, and I know of Paul, but who are you?” 16And the man in whom was the evil spirit, pounced on them and subdued all of them and overpowered them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. 17This became known to all who lived in Ephesus, both Jews and Greeks; and fear fell upon them all and the name of the Lord Jesus was being magnified.

                                Matt 7
                                23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; LEAVE ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESS
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