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The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

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  • Another one of the saving results of the death of Christ is in order that, those He died for will receive the adoption of Sons, which requires sending the Spirit into their hearts Gal 4:4-6

    4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

    5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.


    6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

    All for whom Christ died, He redeemed Gal 3:13 and each one of them will in Gods good time , will be given the Spirit into their hearts confirming, validating their adoption of Sons. They will know God as their Father !

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    • Christs saving death will result in everyone He died for, receiving a Divine Call into the enjoyment of the eternal inheritance. Heb 9:14-15

      14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

      15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

      Eph 1:13-14

      13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth[The Call], the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

      14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

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      • Scriptures points to the saving death of Christ for them He died for. Now all for whom He died had a legal union with Him and were in Him, so that when He died, they died with Him just as they had a legal union with Adam so that when he died, they died with him. So for those in Christ when He died for them, and rose again, so too also they having died in Him, must also be raised up in newness of life Rom 6:4-6

        4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

        5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

        6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

        See those Christ died for shall walk in the newness of life, will be delivered from being a servant of sin, which is unbelief. In other words they for whom Christ died will be born again, partake of the renewing of the Holy Ghost Titus 3:5

        5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

        The renewing of the Holy Ghost equates to walk in the newness of life in Rom 6:4 above.

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        • Originally posted by brightfame52 View Post
          For all those Christ died His death exclusively for them acquired:

          The invalidation and dissolution of death of his power, Heb. 2:14

          14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

          2Tim 1:10

          10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

          All for whom Christ died He will make alive from the dead, even spiritual death, it for them has been invalidated.​
          You still haven't explained why #404 is not correct.

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          • For all those Christ died His death exclusively for them acquired:

            Deliverance

            from the hand of our enemies, Luke 1:71-74

            71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

            72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

            73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

            74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

            This has to do with Spiritual enemies, what the carnal jews didn't understand. Jesus is a Horn of Salvation Vs 69

            69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

            By His Death He becomes the Captain of our Salvation ! This also fulfills the promise of Matt 1:21

            21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.9

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            • For all those Christ died His death exclusively for them acquired:

              Deliverance from the wrath to come 1 Thess 1:10

              10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

              For He was raised for our Justification Rom 4:25

              25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

              So again, those for whom offences He was delivered for, they the same consequently were delivered from the wrath to come !

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              • For all those Christ died His death exclusively for them acquired:

                The invalidation and dissolution of death of his power, Heb. 2:14

                14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

                2Tim 1:10

                10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

                All for whom Christ died He will make alive from the dead, even spiritual death, it for them has been invalidated.​172

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                • For all those Christ died His death exclusively for them acquired:

                  Deliverance from the works of the devil 1 Jn 3:8

                  8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

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                  • Christs death is a saving death because its a gathering death Jn 11:50-52

                    50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

                    51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

                    52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad. 9

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                    • Originally posted by brightfame52 View Post
                      Christs death is a saving death because its a gathering death Jn 11:50-52

                      50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

                      51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

                      52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad. 9
                      You still haven't explained why #404 is not correct.

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                      • Notice also that in Jn 11:50 that Christ dying equates to people not dying, [That the whole nation die not] this surely intimates that His death saves from death, meaning dying in ones sins. His death will prevent everyone in that nation from dying in their sins, which of course is the remnant according to the election of grace.

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                        • When it reads Jn 12:32

                          32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

                          This is a solid declaration that those who Christ is lifted up in behalf of, as a consequence they will be made believers and converted to Him ! Its a declaration of His Saving Death !

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                          • Old test scripture testifying to the saving death of Christ, His Blood for them He died for, or shed it for. Christs blood shed was in regard to a covenant death Matt 26:28

                            28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

                            Now lets look at OT Zech 9:11


                            As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water.

                            That this is speaking also about Christ we appeal to Vs 9

                            9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

                            Which corresponds to Christ here Jn 12:12-15


                            12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,

                            13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

                            14 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,

                            15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.

                            Christs Covenant Blood brings Salvation with remission of sins !

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                            • Christs Death alone saved and redeemed them He died for, hear the testimony of the elders who sit around the Throne Rev 5:9 10

                              And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

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                              • The law has no claim upon those for whom Christ died. The curse spent itself on our Redeemer. We are dead to the law. We are righteous, justified, guiltless, innocent in Christ Those Christ died for are dead to the law Rom 7:410

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