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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.

However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.

End time -isms within orthodox Christianity also discussed here. Clearly unorthodox doctrines, such as those advocating "pantelism/full preterism/Neo-Hymenaeanism" or the denial of any essential of the historic Christian faith are not permitted in this section but can be discussed in Comparative Religions 101 without restriction. Any such threads, as well as any that within the moderator's discretions fall outside mainstream evangelical belief, will be moved to the appropriate area.

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Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.

From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.

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  • #16
    The nations as distinct from Israel. Prior to the first coming of Christ, only Israel had the light of God. Now after the cross, the light has gone into all the world and Satan is powerless to stop it.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by alaskazimm View Post
      The nations as distinct from Israel. Prior to the first coming of Christ, only Israel had the light of God. Now after the cross, the light has gone into all the world and Satan is powerless to stop it.
      Yet he still blinded people according to Paul.
      -The universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine.
      Sir James Jeans

      -This most beautiful system (The Universe) could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being.All variety of created objects which represent order and Life in the Universe could happen only by the willful reasoning of its original Creator, whom I call the Lord God.
      Sir Isaac Newton

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Quantum Weirdness View Post
        Yet he still blinded people according to Paul.
        Then there's the fact that he has weapons like Islam, which has quite a few people blinded and deceived about the truth all over the world.

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        • #19
          When one comes to think of it....deeply. Satan, the "deceiver," and the angels, who "cloak themselves as sheep," must either be a christian or a Jew. Satan itself was serving God (accordingly in the book of Job). Who else would truly battle with the saints "spiritually"?

          What really is our enemy, "humans," or "human nature"? Paul even said that the "last" enemy is death!!!

          Was there really a literal place of Abyss where Satan was locked up?

          Is our battle really about physical strengths and forces? The bible says, "not by power, not by might, but by my spirit". And God, during Lot's time, had destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with only a few angels. And mind you, even Christ himself can send angels to destroy his enemies, but he did not do so. And also, what is the point that the elect would suffer defeat? What is the point of these?


          I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 1Cor 9:26

          Even when one succumbs to pride of knowing of something he is ignorant of, he had already lost the battle.



          And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matt 10:28


          Last edited by FarEastBird; 08-14-2014, 08:12 PM.
          ...WISDOM giveth life to them that have it. (Ecclesiastes 7:12)
          ...the ISLES shall wait for his law (Isaiah 42:4)
          https://philippinesinprophecies.wordpress.com/

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