Ha ha ha I was 100% sure that you would not offer a word for word interpretation not because you don't have time but rather because you cannot. Futurists have never accepted this challenge. The last one was "Explain from scripture word for word and line for line what John says about the antichrist." They cannot do it because their doctrines are not taken from scripture but rather word or phrase associations and not out of the full context of scripture.
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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.
However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.
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Millennialism- post-, pre- a-
Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.
From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.
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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.
However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.
End time -isms within orthodox Christianity also discussed here. Clearly unorthodox doctrines, such as those advocating "pantelism/full preterism/Neo-Hymenaeanism" or the denial of any essential of the historic Christian faith are not permitted in this section but can be discussed in Comparative Religions 101 without restriction. Any such threads, as well as any that within the moderator's discretions fall outside mainstream evangelical belief, will be moved to the appropriate area.
Millennialism- post-, pre- a-
Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.
From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.
OK folks, let's roll!
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Originally posted by Cooter View PostHa ha ha I was 100% sure that you would not offer a word for word interpretation not because you don't have time but rather because you cannot. Futurists have never accepted this challenge. The last one was "Explain from scripture word for word and line for line what John says about the antichrist." They cannot do it because their doctrines are not taken from scripture but rather word or phrase associations and not out of the full context of scripture.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Here is the list of books in Luther's bible.
Luther's New Testament
Matthäus
Markus
Lukas
Johannes
Apostelgeschichte
Römer
1 Korinther
2 Korinther
Galater
Epheser
Philipper
Kolosser
1 Thessalonicher
2 Thessalonicher
1 Timotheus
2 Timotheus
Titus
Philemon
Hebräer
Jakobus
1 Petrus
2 Petrus
1 Johannes
2 Johannes
3 Johannes
Judas
Offenbarung
Looks like the same order as my English version.
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Originally posted by Cooter View PostHere is the list of books in Luther's bible.
Luther's New Testament
Matthäus
Markus
Lukas
Johannes
Apostelgeschichte
Römer
1 Korinther
2 Korinther
Galater
Epheser
Philipper
Kolosser
1 Thessalonicher
2 Thessalonicher
1 Timotheus
2 Timotheus
Titus
Philemon
Hebräer
Jakobus
1 Petrus
2 Petrus
1 Johannes
2 Johannes
3 Johannes
Judas
Offenbarung
Looks like the same order as my English version.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Cooter View PostHere is the list of books in Luther's bible.
Luther's New Testament
Matthäus
Markus
Lukas
Johannes
Apostelgeschichte
Römer
1 Korinther
2 Korinther
Galater
Epheser
Philipper
Kolosser
1 Thessalonicher
2 Thessalonicher
1 Timotheus
2 Timotheus
Titus
Philemon
Hebräer
Jakobus
1 Petrus
2 Petrus
1 Johannes
2 Johannes
3 Johannes
Judas
Offenbarung
Looks like the same order as my English version.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Cooter View PostHere is the list of books in Luther's bible.
Luther's New Testament
Matthäus
Markus
Lukas
Johannes
Apostelgeschichte
Römer
1 Korinther
2 Korinther
Galater
Epheser
Philipper
Kolosser
1 Thessalonicher
2 Thessalonicher
1 Timotheus
2 Timotheus
Titus
Philemon
Hebräer
Jakobus
1 Petrus
2 Petrus
1 Johannes
2 Johannes
3 Johannes
Judas
Offenbarung
Looks like the same order as my English version.When Luther published his translation of the Bible in 1522 he moved Hebrews and James (Hebräer and Jakobus) so that they followed the epistles from Peter and John and were immediately before Jude.
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Originally posted by Cooter View PostVery confusing. My comment was set in the time of Tyndale. If this is true he must have made a change before the time of Tyndale.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Cooter View PostAlways amazes me that you do all of the things that you accuse others of. Projecting maybe?That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostIt could be that your source (which has a very evident pro-Lutheran bias) is simply incorrect.
"Death of Athanasius. More than any other man, he took up the fight for Christ’s divinity in his writings. Five times he had been forced into exile. Slander dogged him. Yet he remained faithful to his vision of an uncreated Christ. He was the first to list the books of the New Testament as we know them."
Yet another claimant. I've seen about 5 or 6 so far.Last edited by Cooter; 05-02-2015, 02:11 PM.
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Originally posted by Cooter View PostRight - anyone who doesn't agree with you must have a bias.Everyone has a bias.
This is actually an extremely low priority item on my list. In the past I depend on credible organizations like Christian History to sort through all of the conjecture, arguments, and misinformation about these minor topics.
My wife just sent me an email about this topic a few minutes ago...
"Death of Athanasius. More than any other man, he took up the fight for Christ’s divinity in his writings. Five times he had been forced into exile. Slander dogged him. Yet he remained faithful to his vision of an uncreated Christ. He was the first to list the books of the New Testament as we know them."
Yet another claimant. I've seen about 5 or 6 so far.What's that got to do with anything? I have nothing against Athanasius - he's a member of my church!
Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Well it would be a waste of time because of Futurist Rule # 1 ...
1. Deny any historical fulfillment of any prophesy by any means.
I was a Futurist for the first half of my life and I full well am aware of their errors.
No amount of facts, historical documents, logic, common sense, will ever even scratch rule number one. And so I leave you to your unrealistic expectations.
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Originally posted by Cooter View PostWell it would be a waste of time because of Futurist Rule # 1 ...
1. Deny any historical fulfillment of any prophesy by any means.
I was a Futurist for the first half of my life and I full well am aware of their errors.
No amount of facts, historical documents, logic, common sense, will ever even scratch rule number one. And so I leave you to your unrealistic expectations.
1) Enter a thread and throw around accusations as if they are proven facts, and when corrected, run like a coward.
That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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