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    Can some one explain what the preterist interpretation of all the disasters in Revelation that seem to have a high fatality rate?
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    I think you might want to read this article here
    http://www.tektonics.org/esch/revdate.html

    Under rev 7, rev 9, rev 11
    and other stuff overall
    Basically, it's hyperbole
    -The universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine.
    Sir James Jeans

    -This most beautiful system (The Universe) could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being.All variety of created objects which represent order and Life in the Universe could happen only by the willful reasoning of its original Creator, whom I call the Lord God.
    Sir Isaac Newton

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    • #3
      So, not the stuff in the Left Behind series? Complete with gory deaths for the army trying to attack Jesus. Which would not make any sense.
      If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
        So, not the stuff in the Left Behind series? Complete with gory deaths for the army trying to attack Jesus. Which would not make any sense.
        Definitely not the stuff in the Left Behind series.
        What doesn't make sense though?
        -The universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine.
        Sir James Jeans

        -This most beautiful system (The Universe) could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being.All variety of created objects which represent order and Life in the Universe could happen only by the willful reasoning of its original Creator, whom I call the Lord God.
        Sir Isaac Newton

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        • #5
          The ending of those poorly written Left Behind books where Jesus kills the enemy army in a gory manner by speaking. When the Bible is compared to a sword, that does not mean it can kill people like that!
          If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
            The ending of those poorly written Left Behind books where Jesus kills the enemy army in a gory manner by speaking. When the Bible is compared to a sword, that does not mean it can kill people like that!
            oh ok then
            -The universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine.
            Sir James Jeans

            -This most beautiful system (The Universe) could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being.All variety of created objects which represent order and Life in the Universe could happen only by the willful reasoning of its original Creator, whom I call the Lord God.
            Sir Isaac Newton

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            • #7
              Quantum's link is spot on.

              The disasters described there, many of them (both poetically and literally) are all caracteristical of war and all the ills it brings (desease and famine especially).
              Ladino, Guatemalan, Hispanic, and Latin, but foremostly, Christian.

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              • #8
                War still stinks big time! Better than the idea of God killing 3/4 the human race over a seven year period...
                If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                  War still stinks big time! Better than the idea of God killing 3/4 the human race over a seven year period...
                  How do you get that?

                  "And the sixth angel sounded, . . . _ . . . And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. . . . _ . . . By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths. . . . " -- Revelation 9:15-18. Even more are to die latter. 3/4?
                  . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

                  . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

                  Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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