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Soul Sleep, ECT, Annihilation: Are the dead conscious or not?

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  • Originally posted by Timothy View Post
    Thank you. That is what I believe. Is this also your belief? The reason I asked, is because I wanted to know if someone who didn't accept the doctrine of Conditional Immortality could describe it without repeating what the Bible says. I believe the doctrine of Conditional Immortality is described perfectly throughout the Bible.
    I believe in both conditional immortality and the eternal conscious torment of the dead.
    . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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    • Originally posted by 37818 View Post
      I believe in both conditional immortality and the eternal conscious torment of the dead.
      http://www.rethinkinghell.com/about/statement

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      • The view I hold is not that view. As I pointed out, while I hold to conditional immortality of the soul, I also hold to a eternal conscious torment of the dead souls. At issue is the Biblical view point. Each view claiming the view held to be Biblical.

        What needs to be identified are the key differences in understanding held by each. And the Biblical truths agree and disagreed on. And why.
        Last edited by 37818; 12-10-2014, 11:00 AM.
        . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

        . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

        Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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        • Originally posted by 37818 View Post
          The view I hold is not that view. As I pointed out, while I hold to conditional immortality of the soul, I also hold to a eternal conscious torment of the dead souls. At issue is the Biblical view point. Each view claiming the view held to be Biblical.

          What needs to be identified are the key differences in understanding held by each. And the Biblical truths agree and disagreed on. And why.
          That would be interesting.
          What do you feel the key differences are in the eternal conscious torment model and the conditional immortality model?
          Have you seen this diagram listing the key differences and key agreements between the three different views on the fate of the unsaved?
          http://www.rethinkinghell.com/assets...med_detail.png

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