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  • #31
    Originally posted by seanD View Post

    It's actually not the only biblical passage. Rev 8:12 is indication the earth spin will increase three times as fast.
    That is about dimming the sun and moon. Not speeding up the earth.

    If you're right and I'm wrong, it won't really matter, because things will get so bad, it'll be irrelevant. If you're wrong, like I said earlier, I'm definitely going to excoriate you mercilessly this time.
    You go right ahead. If we both end up suffering through the tribulation and the earth is spinning so fast that everything starts flying off into space, you can laugh at me and say "I told you so Sparko" as you fly into orbit.



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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      That is about dimming the sun and moon. Not speeding up the earth.

      You go right ahead. If we both end up suffering through the tribulation and the earth is spinning so fast that everything starts flying off into space, you can laugh at me and say "I told you so Sparko" as you fly into orbit.

      Rest assured, it'll be more than "I told you so."

      Even if the earth rotation progresses by mere milliseconds, it'll be enough. The secular heathens will naturally blame it on their own doomsday cult climate change, and so this will likely be the next global crisis that stops the world like the covid pandemic. They're already making moves to alter how we produce food (i.,e. farming) based on climate change. This will just give their agenda more of a sense of urgency.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by seanD View Post

        Rest assured, it'll be more than "I told you so."

        Even if the earth rotation progresses by mere milliseconds, it'll be enough. The secular heathens will naturally blame it on their own doomsday cult climate change, and so this will likely be the next global crisis that stops the world like the covid pandemic. They're already making moves to alter how we produce food (i.,e. farming) based on climate change. This will just give their agenda more of a sense of urgency.
        Like I said the rotation already changes slightly all the time. And if we are going by the solar day, it varies by minutes throughout the year. and if it does continue, all they will need to do is subtract a leap second.

        This article explains the reason for the speed change.
        https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamieca...h=56ebe4265998

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post

          Like I said the rotation already changes slightly all the time. And if we are going by the solar day, it varies by minutes throughout the year. and if it does continue, all they will need to do is subtract a leap second.

          This article explains the reason for the speed change.
          https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamieca...h=56ebe4265998
          From the sources I've seen, the earth's spin was slowing until recently. There are theories they've been suggesting, but they don't exactly know why the speed has increased. And I never said there weren't natural processes involved. If it keeps progressing (like I believe it will), they'll likely use climate change.
          Last edited by seanD; 08-05-2022, 01:52 PM.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by seanD View Post

            No it doesn't. From the sources I've seen, the earth's spin was slowing until recently. There are theories they've been suggesting, but they don't exactly know why the speed has changed. If it keeps progressing (like I believe it will), they'll likely use climate change.
            Well I am just gonna let you continue with your delusion, Sean. I tried.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post

              Well I am just gonna let you continue with your delusion, Sean. I tried.
              And I'll just continue letting you be the know-nothing turd that you are.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by seanD View Post

                And I'll just continue letting you be the know-nothing turd that you are.
                Right. So how many people have you convinced of your dumbass theory now? Zero?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                  Right. So how many people have you convinced of your dumbass theory now? Zero?
                  I'm not really interested in convincing anyone. I use this forum mainly to post my ideas out loud when I'm not working, and that's about it.

                  I'm definitely not at all perfect, and even if I'm wrong about this, it won't matter because, as I said before, things are going to get so progressively bad and crazy in the world (like we're seeing now) that it won't really matter. At least I get most things right. You get absolutely nothing right, and what makes you such an irritating piece of crap is you come across as this know-it-all jackass with insults and smears and yet you still manage to get everything wrong.


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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by seanD View Post

                    I'm not really interested in convincing anyone. I use this forum mainly to post my ideas out loud when I'm not working, and that's about it.

                    I'm definitely not at all perfect, and even if I'm wrong about this, it won't matter because, as I said before, things are going to get so progressively bad and crazy in the world (like we're seeing now) that it won't really matter. At least I get most things right. You get absolutely nothing right, and what makes you such an irritating piece of crap is you come across as this know-it-all jackass with insults and smears and yet you still manage to get everything wrong.

                    I have seen some others on facebook with similar theories so it appears this isn't something you came up with on your own. It's a silly theory seand. On par with Darfius' claim that the Mandella effect is real and Satan's tool to "fool the elect"

                    The plain reading of the verse is that God will shorten the period of tribulation (fewer days, rather than shorter days)


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                      I have seen some others on facebook with similar theories so it appears this isn't something you came up with on your own. It's a silly theory seand. On par with Darfius' claim that the Mandella effect is real and Satan's tool to "fool the elect"

                      The plain reading of the verse is that God will shorten the period of tribulation (fewer days, rather than shorter days)
                      I don't feel at all that this theory is on par with the Mandela Effect theory because that theory has a reasonable psychological explanation behind it. We also don't know if this rotation anomaly will progress or not, so it's an unknown right now.

                      As I said, I don't consider a theory viable without thinking it through first, so I'm well aware of what the theological explanations are for Matt 24:22. Most futurists argue that it's either reference to the rapture or that God will cut the tribulation itself short. Both arguments must assume a necessity to save Christians ("for the sake of the elect"), which makes both arguments fall miserably short of logic and theology (and scripture in the case of the rapture) when they're broken down and dissected.

                      I'm offering an alternative interpretation that makes the most (or at least the least bad) theological sense. And it appears to be backed by scientific implications of a strange anomaly occurring with earth's rotation. Whether or not that anomaly progresses in the future remains to be seen.

                      Last edited by seanD; 08-08-2022, 10:29 AM.
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