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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.
However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.
End time -isms within orthodox Christianity also discussed here. Clearly unorthodox doctrines, such as those advocating "pantelism/full preterism/Neo-Hymenaeanism" or the denial of any essential of the historic Christian faith are not permitted in this section but can be discussed in Comparative Religions 101 without restriction. Any such threads, as well as any that within the moderator's discretions fall outside mainstream evangelical belief, will be moved to the appropriate area.
Millennialism- post-, pre- a-
Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.
From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.
OK folks, let's roll!
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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.
However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.
End time -isms within orthodox Christianity also discussed here. Clearly unorthodox doctrines, such as those advocating "pantelism/full preterism/Neo-Hymenaeanism" or the denial of any essential of the historic Christian faith are not permitted in this section but can be discussed in Comparative Religions 101 without restriction. Any such threads, as well as any that within the moderator's discretions fall outside mainstream evangelical belief, will be moved to the appropriate area.
Millennialism- post-, pre- a-
Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.
From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.
OK folks, let's roll!
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
My knowledge of Koine Greek doesn't extend far enough to allow certitude - but yours seems a reasonable reading. What is not reasonable is pretending that "this book" extends to all the 66 (or so) books of the Bible.
IOW, Darius is engaging in precisely the sort of adding to Scripture that he accuses others of doing.
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
My knowledge of Koine Greek doesn't extend far enough to allow certitude - but yours seems a reasonable reading. What is not reasonable is pretending that "this book" extends to all the 66 (or so) books of the Bible.
Darby - *I* testify to every one who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any one shall add to these things, God shall add to him the plagues which are written in this book.
I think it can GENERALLY be applied to the canon, but more specifically to The Revelation.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWhere do you find that? The closest that I recall is at the end of Revelation where we are told that those who adds (or takes away) from anything in Revelation will be cursed
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Persons who believe they have "special knowledge" don't have much patience for those of us who are actually capable of saying "I don't know" when appropriate.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIMHO he appears angry that folks don't acknowledge his genius in interpreting Scripture.
Could be wrong...
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
That's immediately what came to mind as a misuse of Scripture, but then the Romans 16:17-18 passage came to mind which actually addresses what he was doing.
I haven't dealt with him much at all - is he just an angry individual?
Could be wrong...
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWhere do you find that? The closest that I recall is at the end of Revelation where we are told that those who adds (or takes away) from anything in Revelation will be cursed
I haven't dealt with him much at all - is he just an angry individual?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Yeah, so much of the New Testament is dedicated to topics like "one body, one Lord, one Baptism", unity, being "together in one accord"... It all goes back to the precept - In Essentials Unity, In Non-Essentials Liberty, In All Things Charity
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYour citation does not support the notion that Christians ought to fight with other Christians which was what was speaking against.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWhere do you find that?
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Originally posted by Darfius View Post
People who add to Scripture are cursed in Scripture and it so happens that it says neither of the things you said here.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYour citation does not support the notion that Christians ought to fight with other Christians which was what was speaking against.
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Originally posted by Darfius View Post
The Bible makes it clear many times over that "the way of the Lord" must be prepared. The notion that He will show up randomly with nowhere to "lay His head" because His people are living in rampant disobedience and "fix all the evil" is a pipe dream born of that disobedience.
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When I was a kid my mom fell in with the Jehovah's witnesses. This was during the early to mid 70s. During one of their many, many, many false end times predictions. They constantly predicted the exact year Jesus would return, over and over. And their followers would sell houses and "prepare for the Lord's return" and end up broke and disappointed. Luckily we didn't do that. But I have seen what happens when people keep looking for signs and trying to use esoteric verses to predict when Jesus will come back. No thanks. I know he will come back some day. And I am always prepared. And I know we need to spread the gospel. But no matter when he comes back, we who belong to him will be saved. And if I die before that day, I will meet him even sooner. That's good enough for me.
JWs 1974 "Yes, the end of this system is so very near! Is that not reason to increase our activity?...Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end." (Kingdom Ministry, May 1974, p. 3)
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