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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.

However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.

End time -isms within orthodox Christianity also discussed here. Clearly unorthodox doctrines, such as those advocating "pantelism/full preterism/Neo-Hymenaeanism" or the denial of any essential of the historic Christian faith are not permitted in this section but can be discussed in Comparative Religions 101 without restriction. Any such threads, as well as any that within the moderator's discretions fall outside mainstream evangelical belief, will be moved to the appropriate area.

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Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.

From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.

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  • #46
    Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

    I agree with you when people can get over obsessed with eschatology.

    Unfortunately we also have the flip side which is totally ignoring the subject which may indicate someone is drifting away from the faith.

    Like most subjects in Christianity, it needs to be taught but not obsessed over.
    Yup. Either extreme is wrong. We should neither obsess over it nor ignore it.

    The only difficulty that I see is that often the teaching morphs into obsession.

    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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    • #47
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      Yup. Either extreme is wrong. We should neither obsess over it nor ignore it.

      The only difficulty that I see is that often the teaching morphs into obsession.
      I agree. And this seems to be the area of theology that most likely makes someone obsessed.
      "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

      "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Faber View Post


        How long is a generation? Twenty years? Maybe forty years? He might not return for another forty thousand years!
        Agreed, He may not come for another forty thousand years or a billion years (the estimated time until the sun goes red giant and swallows the earth) or even 5 billion years (the estimated time until the universe dies). Or it is still possible He could come later today. The not knowing is what makes this such an interesting topic.
        "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

        "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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        • #49
          Originally posted by mossrose View Post

          He didn't know. He does now.
          But He's still not telling us.
          "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

          "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post

            23:37:22!!!
            and counting.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by mossrose View Post

              Absolutely agree.
              Me too also.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                Thankee - I will make sure to watch it.
                Provocative episode. Religious freedom, medical overreach, role of government.
                Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                Beige Federalist.

                "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                Let's go, Brandon

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

                  Provocative episode. Religious freedom, medical overreach, role of government.
                  And was first aired in April 1994. There really is "nothing new under the sun."
                  "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                  "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                    But He's still not telling us.
                    He'd make a formidable poker player

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by seanD View Post

                      A person in Russia can access the same information (even reatime events) that a person in the US can access, at the exact same time and in the exact same way. They don't even need a special broadcasting network to do it. Anyone with a cellphone and an internet connection can broadcast it. Even the invention of the television doesn't compare to the internet today in regards to access of realtime information to anyone around the world at any time.
                      While you are 100% right about the 1st sentence, the boldened part isn't 100% true. I would say a cellphone accessing a Cell tower IS a special broadcasting network and it can be taken down very easily if the powers that be want to. Television with the CNN's etc. still rival the internet but I agree the depth of the available info is greater on the internet.

                      What significance to you place on the increased communications ability?
                      "What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer

                      "... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen

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                      • #56
                        When I take a shower, I always keep a towel within arm's reach just in case.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          When I take a shower, I always keep a towel within arm's reach just in case.
                          Keep a window or skylight open too so you don't get stuck on the ceiling if the rapture happens while you are inside!

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                            Keep a window or skylight open too so you don't get stuck on the ceiling if the rapture happens while you are inside!
                            I have a hard head - I think I'll just crash on through.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Littlejoe View Post

                              While you are 100% right about the 1st sentence, the boldened part isn't 100% true. I would say a cellphone accessing a Cell tower IS a special broadcasting network and it can be taken down very easily if the powers that be want to. Television with the CNN's etc. still rival the internet but I agree the depth of the available info is greater on the internet.

                              What significance to you place on the increased communications ability?
                              It underscores Jesus' "you will hear" these things happening (Matthew 24:6-8). The events themselves have no significance to any generation, including the generation Jesus was addressing because the events he describes were occurring even during and had occurred before Jesus spoke about it. There were always wars. There were always rumors of wars. There were always famines. There were always pestilences. There were always earthquakes (heck, there was an earthquake right when Jesus died on the cross). How we hear these things is the only thing about that passage that makes our generation unique than all others generations previous.
                              "What am I doing here?" -- Joe Biden 2021

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by seanD View Post

                                It underscores Jesus' "you will hear" these things happening (Matthew 24:6-8). The events themselves have no significance to any generation, including the generation Jesus was addressing because the events he describes were occurring even during and had occurred before Jesus spoke about it. There were always wars. There were always rumors of wars. There were always famines. There were always pestilences. There were always earthquakes (heck, there was an earthquake right when Jesus died on the cross). How we hear these things is the only thing about that passage that makes our generation unique than all others generations previous.
                                Ah! Ok...but, Jesus was talking specifically to the Disciples in private, in answer to their questions. Why do you think Jesus was addressing us and not them?
                                "What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer

                                "... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen

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