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Q for Apostolic church members--saint quotes/sayings

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    How much can what saints said be trusted?
    I am become death...

  • #2
    Not sure who you're asking.
    Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ana Dragule View Post
      How much can what saints said be trusted?
      When they speak and it does not directly contradict the Word...
      That's what
      - She

      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ana Dragule View Post
        How much can what saints said be trusted?
        When its in line with the tradition of the Church, and has not met with disapproval from the magisterium, and then only in the sense that its permissible to believe what they say... unless they happen to say something the Church has defined as doctrine (such as the Ressurection), in which case what they're saying must be trusted, but not because they're saints.

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        • #5
          I am a saint.

          You can trust me.


          Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mossrose View Post
            I am a saint.

            You can trust me.
            I'm a saint too, and you can trust me "When [I] speak and it does not directly contradict the Word..."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mossrose View Post
              I am a saint.
              We can all become saints. Those several hundreds people the Catholic Church has marked down, are just the ones its fairly, pretty much, genuinely, completely, utterly, convinced, likely-infallibly-surely convinced are in Heaven.

              You can trust me.
              I trust you mossrose... just don't hit me with the pin.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Leonhard
                We can all become saints. Those several hundreds people the Catholic Church has marked down, are just the ones its fairly, pretty much, genuinely, completely, utterly, convinced, likely-infallibly-surely convinced are in Heaven.
                Scripture says ALL believers are saints.
                I trust you mossrose... just don't hit me with the pin.



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                • #9
                  Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                  Not sure who you're asking.
                  Ah, I meant apostolic as in of or relating to a succession of spiritual authority from the apostles held (as by Roman Catholic, Anglicans, and Eastern Orthodox [and Oriental Orthodox and Assyrian Church of the East if any are here]) to be perpetuated by successive ordinations of bishops and to be necessary for valid sacraments and orders. Definition from 2a on Idictionary.
                  I am become death...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                    Cute.
                    I am become death...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ana Dragule View Post
                      Ah, I meant apostolic as in of or relating to a succession of spiritual authority from the apostles held (as by Roman Catholic, Anglicans, and Eastern Orthodox [and Oriental Orthodox and Assyrian Church of the East if any are here]) to be perpetuated by successive ordinations of bishops and to be necessary for valid sacraments and orders. Definition from 2a on Idictionary.
                      Well, their writings certainly take second place to scripture. On the other hand, people with heretical views aren't generally venerated as saints, even if their writings were influential (e.g., Origen, Evagrius of Pontus, Eusebius Pamphilius). The writings of the early saints (ante-Nicene in particular) need to be parsed more carefully, as terminology had not yet become standardized.
                      Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                      Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ana Dragule View Post
                        How much can what saints said be trusted?
                        I would rather trust someone whom the Church has canonised, and whose doctrine she has approved, than trust myself. If the Saint is a Father, or a Doctor of the Church, or a heavenly Patron of those who practice some branch of theology, or a bishop or Pope, those are all grounds for confidence. And there are also the details of the lives of each. Saints are not inerrant - that does not mean they are not worthy of confidence. Christians trust fallible, sinful human beings all the time - including themselves; so ISTM the Saints are well worthy of trust; unlike us on earth, they are completely holy.

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