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Salvation for non-Catholic Christians
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI suppose I'm curious, then, what the RCC position is on salvation outside of the Catholic church. I've heard some conflicting views.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostSort of like "We have the good news of salvation, but we won't tell it to anyone, because if they don't accept it they might go to hell"?
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostThat seems sort of like the idea (based on the assumption that those who have never heard of the gospel will not be damned on that basis) of not evangelizing to unreached people.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostDoes anyone have any info on official RCC doctrine on this point?
I saw a Catholic (not on tweb) speak quite strongly about how blasphemous Protestantism was. I want to know what the official RCC statement about Protestantism and salvation is.
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Does anyone have any info on official RCC doctrine on this point?
I saw a Catholic (not on tweb) speak quite strongly about how blasphemous Protestantism was. I want to know what the official RCC statement about Protestantism and salvation is.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostIt would seem to be quite a weird position to hold, because it would imply that the smart thing to do would be to refrain from studying Catholicism altogether. I mean, why study it if you could potentially lose your soul over it? If that's the case then the best thing to do would be to continue on in a (quite literally) blessed state of ignorance.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostIt would seem to be quite a weird position to hold, because it would imply that the smart thing to do would be to refrain from studying Catholicism altogether. I mean, why study it if you could potentially lose your soul over it? If that's the case then the best thing to do would be to continue on in a (quite literally) blessed state of ignorance.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI found this interesting blog post.
I'm wondering a couple things:
1. Does this accurately reflect RCC doctrine? In my extremely limited readings on the subject, I've seen some division on the topic of salvation outside the RCC.
2. If so, what is "sufficient accurate knowledge of Catholicism," and can this be determined?
3. For example, now that I, a Protestant, have read that blog post, am I no longer a Christian until I convert to Roman Catholicism? (i.e., "So if the Protestant or Orthodox Christian does not realize that he should convert, then it is not an actual mortal sin, and he or she can be saved without converting to Catholicism.")
4. Am I correct in understanding this to be basically saying that once a certain level of knowledge of Catholicism is reached, a Christian can no longer remain non-Catholic without losing his salvation, period?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSounds like the Catholic version of Jack Chick to me.
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Salvation for non-Catholic Christians
I found this interesting blog post.
I'm wondering a couple things:
1. Does this accurately reflect RCC doctrine? In my extremely limited readings on the subject, I've seen some division on the topic of salvation outside the RCC.
2. If so, what is "sufficient accurate knowledge of Catholicism," and can this be determined?
3. For example, now that I, a Protestant, have read that blog post, am I no longer a Christian until I convert to Roman Catholicism? (i.e., "So if the Protestant or Orthodox Christian does not realize that he should convert, then it is not an actual mortal sin, and he or she can be saved without converting to Catholicism.")
4. Am I correct in understanding this to be basically saying that once a certain level of knowledge of Catholicism is reached, a Christian can no longer remain non-Catholic without losing his salvation, period?Tags: None
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