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  • Salvation for non-Catholic Christians

    I found this interesting blog post.

    I'm wondering a couple things:

    1. Does this accurately reflect RCC doctrine? In my extremely limited readings on the subject, I've seen some division on the topic of salvation outside the RCC.

    2. If so, what is "sufficient accurate knowledge of Catholicism," and can this be determined?

    3. For example, now that I, a Protestant, have read that blog post, am I no longer a Christian until I convert to Roman Catholicism? (i.e., "So if the Protestant or Orthodox Christian does not realize that he should convert, then it is not an actual mortal sin, and he or she can be saved without converting to Catholicism.")

    4. Am I correct in understanding this to be basically saying that once a certain level of knowledge of Catholicism is reached, a Christian can no longer remain non-Catholic without losing his salvation, period?
    I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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    Sounds like the Catholic version of Jack Chick to me.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      Sounds like the Catholic version of Jack Chick to me.
      I suppose I'm curious, then, what the RCC position is on salvation outside of the Catholic church. I've heard some conflicting views.
      I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
        I found this interesting blog post.

        I'm wondering a couple things:

        1. Does this accurately reflect RCC doctrine? In my extremely limited readings on the subject, I've seen some division on the topic of salvation outside the RCC.

        2. If so, what is "sufficient accurate knowledge of Catholicism," and can this be determined?

        3. For example, now that I, a Protestant, have read that blog post, am I no longer a Christian until I convert to Roman Catholicism? (i.e., "So if the Protestant or Orthodox Christian does not realize that he should convert, then it is not an actual mortal sin, and he or she can be saved without converting to Catholicism.")

        4. Am I correct in understanding this to be basically saying that once a certain level of knowledge of Catholicism is reached, a Christian can no longer remain non-Catholic without losing his salvation, period?
        It would seem to be quite a weird position to hold, because it would imply that the smart thing to do would be to refrain from studying Catholicism altogether. I mean, why study it if you could potentially lose your soul over it? If that's the case then the best thing to do would be to continue on in a (quite literally) blessed state of ignorance.
        ~Formerly known as Chrawnus~

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
          It would seem to be quite a weird position to hold, because it would imply that the smart thing to do would be to refrain from studying Catholicism altogether. I mean, why study it if you could potentially lose your soul over it? If that's the case then the best thing to do would be to continue on in a (quite literally) blessed state of ignorance.
          I've seen the position put forth elsewhere, that salvation can only come through the Catholic church, but that some people can be considered implicitly a member by virtue of ignorance (I think I'm getting that right).
          I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
            It would seem to be quite a weird position to hold, because it would imply that the smart thing to do would be to refrain from studying Catholicism altogether. I mean, why study it if you could potentially lose your soul over it? If that's the case then the best thing to do would be to continue on in a (quite literally) blessed state of ignorance.
            That seems sort of like the idea (based on the assumption that those who have never heard of the gospel will not be damned on that basis) of not evangelizing to unreached people.
            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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            • #7
              Does anyone have any info on official RCC doctrine on this point?

              I saw a Catholic (not on tweb) speak quite strongly about how blasphemous Protestantism was. I want to know what the official RCC statement about Protestantism and salvation is.
              I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                That seems sort of like the idea (based on the assumption that those who have never heard of the gospel will not be damned on that basis) of not evangelizing to unreached people.
                ~Formerly known as Chrawnus~

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                  Does anyone have any info on official RCC doctrine on this point?

                  I saw a Catholic (not on tweb) speak quite strongly about how blasphemous Protestantism was. I want to know what the official RCC statement about Protestantism and salvation is.
                  There are some Catholics who totally reject the Second Vatican Council as giving in to Protestantism too much and have broken off from that point on. I wonder if the person you saw is one of those.
                  "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                    That seems sort of like the idea (based on the assumption that those who have never heard of the gospel will not be damned on that basis) of not evangelizing to unreached people.
                    Sort of like "We have the good news of salvation, but we won't tell it to anyone, because if they don't accept it they might go to hell"?
                    ~Formerly known as Chrawnus~

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
                      Sort of like "We have the good news of salvation, but we won't tell it to anyone, because if they don't accept it they might go to hell"?
                      Yep.
                      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                        I suppose I'm curious, then, what the RCC position is on salvation outside of the Catholic church. I've heard some conflicting views.
                        During/after Vatican II previous claims of extra ecclesiam nulla salus was 'harmonised' with the modern view, though naturally many Catholics still resist the change.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                          Does anyone have any info on official RCC doctrine on this point?
                          Google.

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                          • #14
                            I googled google googling google and broke the internet.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              I googled google googling google and broke the internet.
                              that explains the tweb 500 errors

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