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. . . the Real Presence in the Eucharist or another Jesus another gospel.

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  • #166
    Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
    and, ultimately, a corpse God.
    I think it is more accurate to include His resurrection.

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    • #167
      Originally posted by robrecht View Post
      What's next, will he tell us that we should celebrate the Eucharist as nudists?

      http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...m-and-Clothing

      Or would that be a polemical misrepresentation of Foudroyant's sacramental theology? If he has a sacramental theology? Is it of any importance whatsoever that we represent his theological convictions correctly or should we just make up the most demeaning characterization we can think of, regardless of whether or not it corresponds to his actual beliefs?

      The polemical arguments about what can be seen as a relatively minor difference in attempting to explain a mystery that should be beyond merely rational explanation but rather an expression of faith has turned what Paul saw as a celebration of unity into a theological fighting ground. Regardless of what exactly Christ intended by his words as explained in various philosophical or theological systematic terminology, that was surely not intended.

      Rather than polemics, we should dialogue to make sure we understand each others ideas and faith before offering critical reflection, if indeed critical reflection in even welcome once an environment of mutual trust and understanding has been achieved.

      You are welcome to go to that thread and respond accordingly. Your attempt at "shock value" simply reveals the inadequacy of your position.

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      • #168
        Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
        I think it is more accurate to include His resurrection.
        But it's still accurate to say that you worship a pimply teenaged god who, as an infant, soiled his diapers at least daily.
        Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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        • #169
          That is what the Lord Jesus was (past) not what He is now (present).

          He wasn't a "god"....He always was and still is and will forever be "God".

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          • #170
            When Jesus was a diaper-soiling baby or a pimply teenager, was he still God?
            Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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            • #171
              See above.

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              • #172
                Originally posted by TimelessTheist View Post
                You misunderstand. I wasn't just speaking of the Bible, I was speaking of Jewish literature, in general. It was a popular metaphor in such.

                P.S. I'll have the source by either tomorrow, or the next day.

                The above is from Post #121.

                It's been several more days than this. Do you simply need more time?
                Last edited by foudroyant; 06-12-2014, 08:44 PM.

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                • #173
                  Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
                  See above.
                  Why does the same characterization not apply to the Eucharist?
                  Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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                  • #174
                    The Lord Jesus is a person not a thing.

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                    • #175
                      Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
                      The Lord Jesus is a person not a thing.
                      What does it matter?

                      Get it? Matter?

                      I'm hilarious.
                      Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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                      • #176
                        A thing is something that was created.

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                        • #177
                          Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
                          A thing is something that was created.
                          The human body is also a created thing.
                          Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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                          • #178
                            But Christ existed before that as a conscious being.
                            And He is said to be in heaven seated at the right hand of God.

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                            • #179
                              Jesus isn't just "a conscious being"-- he is a member of the Trinity. He is God. He is Being itself. He is Who Is.
                              Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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                              • #180
                                Yeah that's it.

                                He is who He is? Agree.

                                "He" is a personal pronoun. He is not an "it". He is not a wafer and definitely not a wafer to be worshiped.
                                Last edited by foudroyant; 06-12-2014, 09:16 PM.

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