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  • #16
    Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
    In this post

    http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...ll=1#post45560 you listed 3 kinds of governing documents. You didn't mention the contract with the pastor. I wonder why. Another reason is, I was curious.
    Ah! I didn't list a "contract with the Pastor" because, in my personal experience, I have never had to deal with that.

    The Bylaws and/or the Policies & Procedures line out what is expected -- how to call a Pastor, what his duties and responsibilities are, compensation package, termination, etc.

    The only time I've seen this as a separate document would be in the case of an "intentional interim". Where the Church is without a Pastor, but is not yet ready to call the next permanent Pastor. Perhaps the previous Pastor was a bad experience, so they need some time before another Pastor. In that case, there will often be an "intentional interim" --- a Pastor (bivocational or retired) who will "fill in" for an agreed upon definite time period, and who, by contract, will NOT seek, or be considered for, the position as Permanent Pastor.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
      King's Gambit, maybe change "chuch" to "church" in the thread title?? And after fixing the spelling, maybe delete this post??
      I hereby pledge to no longer post when tired or rushed .

      Bad things happen.
      "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

      "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
        I hereby pledge to no longer post when tired or rushed .

        Bad things happen.
        Meh... I went through a period when EVERY THREAD I STARTED had a misspelling in the title.
        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Meh... I went through a period when EVERY THREAD I STARTED had a misspelling in the title.
          I got to point out nearly every one



          Good times.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #20
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            I got to point out nearly every one



            Good times.
            What's a brother for?
            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              What's a brother for?


              May you have a blessed Easter.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #22
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post


                May you have a blessed Easter.
                He is RISEN, indeed!
                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                • #23
                  Amen.
                  Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                  • #24
                    CHRIST IS RISEN and gives HOPE to the Hopeless!
                    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                    • #25
                      If they only trust Him.
                      Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                      • #26
                        Yeah.
                        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                        • #27
                          Take 2.

                          Laying aside our legal documents, let us strive after God as individuals and community.

                          I wish I could frame my question the right way. So please bear with me as this is going to be more stream of thought. It seems to me that we need to close the gap between leadership and members. It seems to me that too many places the leadership doesn't know their members and the members don't trust the leadership. Have we lost the sense of being a community?

                          One feature of the early church is how much they cared one for another and how outsiders perceive it. And it still exists in some places. My mom was telling me some stories of what her local church does for its members. I'd join in a moment but its a 5 hour drive to church every Sunday. Is it a city thing? Is it living a more liberal part of the world where the outsider gets more attention than the member? It just seems to me that members are most expendable thing around here. Have we forgotten how to be a we and not a bunch of I's who happen to worship at the same time and place?

                          Is it partially we need a change in emphasis like Pope Francis is doing? Despite some media claims to the contrary, he hasn't changed single doctrine yet but suddenly the RCC looks more attractive. Is that our issue - we emphasis the following God's law rather than His love? Its been since I've really seen a loving community that is still intent on obeying God. I've gotten on or the other but not both.

                          Maybe we've forgotten to put God first. We'll open in prayer and then talk about the things of man for the rest of the time. We say God centered but don't practice it. We find ways to hear the Word of God but excuse ourselves from following it.

                          Is it the discarding of sin from our doctrines? We expect each other to be so perfect that we don't admit our failures and condemn others when they fail. So our relationships are built on a false basis of a lie of who I am and who you are. I know some people say that they are new creation in Christ, but I'm an old sinner saved by grace. I want mercy when I fail and I want to learn to show mercy.

                          I don't know...so I'll be quiet now and let you talk.
                          "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                          "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                          • #28
                            Three days later and no response to my previous post.
                            "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                            "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                              Take 2.

                              Laying aside our legal documents, let us strive after God as individuals and community.

                              I wish I could frame my question the right way. So please bear with me as this is going to be more stream of thought. It seems to me that we need to close the gap between leadership and members. It seems to me that too many places the leadership doesn't know their members and the members don't trust the leadership. Have we lost the sense of being a community?

                              One feature of the early church is how much they cared one for another and how outsiders perceive it. And it still exists in some places. My mom was telling me some stories of what her local church does for its members. I'd join in a moment but its a 5 hour drive to church every Sunday. Is it a city thing? Is it living a more liberal part of the world where the outsider gets more attention than the member? It just seems to me that members are most expendable thing around here. Have we forgotten how to be a we and not a bunch of I's who happen to worship at the same time and place?

                              Is it partially we need a change in emphasis like Pope Francis is doing? Despite some media claims to the contrary, he hasn't changed single doctrine yet but suddenly the RCC looks more attractive. Is that our issue - we emphasis the following God's law rather than His love? Its been since I've really seen a loving community that is still intent on obeying God. I've gotten on or the other but not both.

                              Maybe we've forgotten to put God first. We'll open in prayer and then talk about the things of man for the rest of the time. We say God centered but don't practice it. We find ways to hear the Word of God but excuse ourselves from following it.

                              Is it the discarding of sin from our doctrines? We expect each other to be so perfect that we don't admit our failures and condemn others when they fail. So our relationships are built on a false basis of a lie of who I am and who you are. I know some people say that they are new creation in Christ, but I'm an old sinner saved by grace. I want mercy when I fail and I want to learn to show mercy.

                              I don't know...so I'll be quiet now and let you talk.
                              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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