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Praying to Mary is worshiping Mary

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  • One Bad Pig
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    Originally posted by tabibito View Post
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    He stole Sparko's bacon. There's no forgiving that.

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  • rogue06
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    You may stand down now. Foudroyant managed to make himself persona non grata, and will not be returning.

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  • tabibito
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  • One Bad Pig
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    You may stand down now. Foudroyant managed to make himself persona non grata, and will not be returning.

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  • apostoli
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    Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
    Not so doofus. I already proved otherwise but you ignored commenting on what I wrote.
    Impossible to convince a blockhead against their will.
    Doofus, there is not a Hebrew or Greek scholar that would support your ignorance. The original texts say what they say, David was worshiped in equivalence to YHWH (God)!!!

    As for what you write, there has been nothing to comment upon! Except, to reveal your total and absolute ignorance (socially, scripturally and grammatically).

    It is impossible to convince a moron against their will...try going to drug/alcohol rehabilitation to remediate your schizophrenia. You definitely have a problem, as everyone here at theologyweb recognises...Either see a Christian minister nearest to you or get to your local mental health professional. I recognise your symptoms. I had a son that suffered from your condition, and in his thirtieth year, in his insanity, he climbed under a train and waited for it to move, and as a consequence was decapitated...

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  • robrecht
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    Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
    Yeah we shouldn't misrepresent the basketball player insisting he was playing baseball.

    With all the idolatry warned about in the OT and the NT the burden of proof is on those who pray to Mary to show us that God says it's ok to do.
    In addition to the fact that whenever prayer in the Bible took place it was always worship there is also the following:
    When Stephen died loud lamentation was made over him not "to" him (Acts 8:2) and when the apostle James died (Acts 12:2) there is no biblical evidence he was prayed to either. Added to this even after the death of all the other 11 apostles John makes no mention of this abhorrent practice in his later writings (of course no one else wrote in favor of it as well).

    Burden of proof is on those who say it is ok to pray to Mary to provide real convincing evidence because the Bible is certainly against what they are doing.
    Everybody has their own burdens. Yours is to support your claim that Catholics believe Mary is a god or retract it. When pressed to apply your basketball analogy consistently, you have already implicitly withdrawn the claim (you do realize that, right?), why not make it official, man up, admit you got overly excited and misspoke. No one will think any less of you; in fact you would gain respect.

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  • foudroyant
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    Originally posted by robrecht View Post
    You cared enough before to misrepresent what they say and believe. Misrepresentation is wrong.
    Yeah we shouldn't misrepresent the basketball player insisting he was playing baseball.

    With all the idolatry warned about in the OT and the NT the burden of proof is on those who pray to Mary to show us that God says it's ok to do.
    In addition to the fact that whenever prayer in the Bible took place it was always worship there is also the following:
    When Stephen died loud lamentation was made over him not "to" him (Acts 8:2) and when the apostle James died (Acts 12:2) there is no biblical evidence he was prayed to either. Added to this even after the death of all the other 11 apostles John makes no mention of this abhorrent practice in his later writings (of course no one else wrote in favor of it as well).


    Burden of proof is on those who say it is ok to pray to Mary to provide real convincing evidence because the Bible is certainly against what they are doing.

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  • foudroyant
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    Originally posted by apostoli View Post
    No! Your response is completely empty! Scripture plainly states that David was worshiped in equivalence to the LORD GOD (YHWH) = 1 Chron 29:20

    Not so doofus. I already proved otherwise but you ignored commenting on what I wrote.
    Impossible to convince a blockhead against their will.

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  • apostoli
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    Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
    Paul dealt with the same thing. There is no God but one by nature (Galatians 4:8) but people can pray to anything/anyone that is not God and they become a "god" for them (1 Corinthians 10:19-20).
    In Deuteronomy it says (to the Isrealites) that they have "one God and Lord". A.Paul turns that around in 1 Corinthians to say we have ONE GOD THE FATHER, and one Lord Jesus Christ... Over three hundred years (until 325CE) the church was plagued by various morons such as you, then at a council, the majority church affirmed (irrefutably) A.Paul's teaching...which has been delivered down to us to this present day...

    Which will you have? Your unsupportable predisposition or actual Christianity...
    Last edited by apostoli; 08-21-2014, 09:14 AM.

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  • apostoli
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    Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
    No, your response is empty.
    No! Your response is completely empty! Scripture plainly states that David was worshiped in equivalence to the LORD GOD (YHWH) = 1 Chron 29:20 wherein it is explicitly stated that "all the congregation blessed the LORD God (YHWH) of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshiped the LORD (YHWH), and the king (David)".

    You can ignore and discredit scripture all you want. Unfortunately, for us that acknowledge scripture as inspired of God, scripture refutes your basic premise on what worship is and to whom it is directed...basically it is simply a matter of linguistics. Unfortunately, you are too infantile to have a mature comprehension. Keep to the milk, it may make you prosper!

    It is obvious you have no response to the inspired scriptures...which accounts for your attempt at infantile diversions...
    Last edited by apostoli; 08-21-2014, 08:48 AM.

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  • robrecht
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    Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
    i dont care what they say they believe just like the idiot basketball player who believes he is playing baseball. the facts speak otherwise to what all those morons say.
    You cared enough before to misrepresent what they say and believe. Misrepresentation is wrong.

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  • foudroyant
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    Originally posted by robrecht View Post
    I understand all that. That is not the what I am asking you. Here is my question for you:

    A. Catholics believe Mary is a god.

    B. Catholics do not believe Mary is a god.

    C. Both of the above.

    D. None of the above.
    i dont care what they say they believe just like the idiot basketball player who believes he is playing baseball. the facts speak otherwise to what all those morons say.

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  • foudroyant
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    Originally posted by tabibito View Post
    No passage can be cited that defines prayer as worship. And the Bible does show that people are legitimately prayed to - except when that prayer is a specific type, which is reserved for addressing a deity. Even that form of prayer is not defined as worship - it is simply done on occasion within the context of worship - which your extra-biblical references also state.
    Every one is worship.

    Simple and correct.

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  • tabibito
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    Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
    They offer them silent prayers and feel confident that they hear them.

    And....not one passage in the Bible can be cited where prayer is not worship.
    No passage can be cited that defines prayer as worship. And the Bible does show that people are legitimately prayed to - except when that prayer is a specific type, which is reserved for addressing a deity. Even that form of prayer is not defined as worship - it is simply done on occasion within the context of worship - which your extra-biblical references also state.

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  • robrecht
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    Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
    Trainreck you are pathetic.
    I explain this over and over and you just are so dense.

    Pay real close attention now.....

    By praying to Mary the RCC has made her into their God.
    Ontologically the biblical Mary is not God.
    But the heretical CATHOLIC Mary is a God to them.
    I understand all that. That is not the what I am asking you. Here is my question for you:

    A. Catholics believe Mary is a god.

    B. Catholics do not believe Mary is a god.

    C. Both of the above.

    D. None of the above.

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