I think they already shot them all, or deported them to Canada.
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostAnd my avatar is an affectionate tribute to Darth, in case you hadn't noticed."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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The quote in the OP struck me as mere hyperbole.
The commentators in the video also seemed to take it that way, because their comments were about the substance of the liberal programs in question, rather than about how outrageous it was that a Catholic would suggest shooting liberals.
Or did I miss something?
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostAlright, I'll try to simplify it further: He was the charismatic leader of the most successful progressive extermination machine in history (and arguably the best dressed).
Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostIt's supposed to exemplify why NAZIs are lethal to progressives (and thus why progressives fear them instinctively). Conservatives aren't a threat. NAZIs are because their traditional tactics don't work even if the NAZI isn't aware of what the progressive is trying to do.
Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostOnly one arguable conservative has commented on it (also inquisitively) and she has no impulse control whatsoever. The commentary has flown decisively from one side of the political spectrum.
And true conservatives have a lesser (or no) fear of Hitler (as a symbol of the end of the death of their hegemony) and thus do not comment much on your use of Hitler as your avatar.
Anything I'm still missing?βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by John Reece View PostThe quote in the OP struck me as mere hyperbole.
The commentators in the video also seemed to take it that way, because their comments were about the substance of the liberal programs in question, rather than about how outrageous it was that a Catholic would suggest shooting liberals.
Or did I miss something?βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by Spartacus View Postβλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhat a great underail!βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostOh. I'll have to ask my kids if they remember this Pokémon character, Dark Exeggutor.Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostThanks, I'm working on it after shooting myself in the foot by trying to be extra nice by taking an interest in Dark Exeggutor's new avatar.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI don't know. but probably not many if any liberals in it. The church is southern baptist and in a military town next to an army base. Half of the members are soldiers and their families.Originally posted by Sparko View PostI think they already shot them all, or deported them to Canada.βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostExeggutor is one of the more peculiar/absurd pokemon to begin with, and "darth executor" sounds like "dark exeggutor." I really don't want to have to explain this much more than I already have...βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostNo worries, I wasn't asking for more explanation, just wanted to test the degree of my kids' past involvement in Pokemon.
*this statistic may be slightly exaggerated, but was cited by Benjamin Franklin.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostOK, I think I've got it now. He is lethal to progressives because he makes progressivism look bad in the eyes of those who think Hitler was a progressive in the same or similar sense that progressives are now progressive. Is that it?
Now this seems to be a different idea. Here it sounds like progressives playing the race card will not work against NAZIs because the NAZIs are racist (too). Is that right?
So, if I understand you correctly, progressives tend to comment on your avatar because they fear NAZIism, which makes progressivism look bad, and because their own (racist) tactics are ineffective against NAZIs.
And true conservatives have a lesser (or no) fear of Hitler (as a symbol of the end of the death of their hegemony) and thus do not comment much on your use of Hitler as your avatar."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostAre you pulling my leg? He is literally lethal to progressives. As in he'll kill nearly any progressive he can get his hands on. He can also kill them even if he doesn't know whether they're progressives or not due to his discriminatory policies (gays and minorities tend to be more progressive than heterosexual white people). I think you're getting my ideas and OBP's mixed up. I don't agree with his assessment that progressives fear Hitler because of similarities between them (and there are some).
Not exactly. It won't work because the terms of the fight change. Calling people racist works when you can control the terms of the engagement. This control is fragile, because it rests on a "gentlemen's agreement" not to do certain things (some of which progressives ignore them anyway). IE: we agree not to physically fight but rather obtain support for our positions by non-violently persuading others. NAZIs ignore the agreement, even more than liberals do, and once in power there's no chance for liberals to manipulate it out of their grasp because the NAZIs will physically kill them.
No, progressives tend to comment on my avatar because if a man like him ever gains power over them they instinctively know they're bound for plasma ovens and mass graves.
Indeed. Hitler has no reason to kill conservatives unless they interfere with his rule. Some may have a rational basis for fear, but there's no need for an instinctive fear of him.βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostYes, while struggling to comprehend your point of view, I assumed that One Bad Pig was agreeing with you. Now I understand what you are saying. But I think conservatives should be every bit as opposed to Hitler as progressives, regardless of whether this opposition is based on philosophical reflection, subconscious or instinctive fear. All are healthy motivations for opposition in my opinion, and I don't think conservatives lack any of these motivations compared with liberals.
As for comparisons between Hitler and Genghis Khan, Hitler is more naturally thought of because he is a lot more proximate in our history; some are still alive who fought him in war, and many more had parents and grandparents who fought in this war. I could be wrong, but I don't see any real differences between progressives and conservatives on this issue.
Perhaps some people bring up your avatar because they want to use it in opposition to you, not out of a special progressive fear of Hitler?"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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