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So if God controls every thought and action of his creation, then why didn't he just stop Satan from rebelling and Adam and Eve from sinning in the first place? Imagine the glory of having created a world where everything created never sinned in the first place!
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSo if God controls every thought and action of his creation, then why didn't he just stop Satan from rebelling and Adam and Eve from sinning in the first place? Imagine the glory of having created a world where everything created never sinned in the first place!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Machinist View PostHypercalvinism huh? That's what Dave has going on here?
I'm quite sure that the Calvinist church I go to isn't in to this. I can't imagine any congregation where that's the prevailing attitude and belief.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Machinist View PostHypercalvinism huh? That's what Dave has going on here?
I'm quite sure that the Calvinist church I go to isn't in to this. I can't imagine any congregation where that's the prevailing attitude and belief.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt's a perversion of Calvinism that seemed to be more prevalent several decades back than it is today.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
But I've never seen anybody take it to the extent he does.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
But I've never seen anybody take it to the extent he does.
Here is an article about hypercalvinism.
https://g3min.org/calvinism-is-not-hyper-calvinism/
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A group of followers of Jacobus Arminius who studied under Theodore Beza (a disciple of John Calvin) drafted a document known as the Remonstrance. It was a detailed refutation of the sovereignty of God in salvation. It elevated the free will of man above the sovereign initiative and power of God. These people were known as Arminians. Their doctrine would eventually become known as Arminianism.
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That is some interesting history. Every now and then, the sermons at my church will include snippets and references to some of these figures as well as certain documents.
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostDave thinks we are fictional characters.
"For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI knew someone like that. He also believed it didn't matter what he did because he had been predestined as part of the Elect who would go to heaven.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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The most famous historical example of Hypercalvinism is when William Carey was told by an older church leader " When God pleases to convert the heathen, He will do without your aid or mine!" Carey didn't listen, of course."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Machinist View PostA group of followers of Jacobus Arminius who studied under Theodore Beza (a disciple of John Calvin) drafted a document known as the Remonstrance. It was a detailed refutation of the sovereignty of God in salvation. It elevated the free will of man above the sovereign initiative and power of God. These people were known as Arminians. Their doctrine would eventually become known as Arminianism.
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That is some interesting history. Every now and then, the sermons at my church will include snippets and references to some of these figures as well as certain documents.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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