Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

[Dave L]

"Jesus" was the Son's personal name, like yours is David. It mean's "YHWH Saves" - it only names the Son, not the Holy Spirit or the Father. The fullness of the Godhead dwells in each of the persons of the Trinity, including the Father and the Holy Spirit. In the OT the name of God, YHWH referred to the entire Godhead, the Trinity, since at that time it was not revealed that there were three persons in the Godhead. Therefore if any name refers to the entire trinity, it would be YHWH. And the capitalized word "LORD" in the OT was actually a replacement for YHWH in the Hebrew. "Lord" in the New Testament when referring to Jesus is the translation of the word "Adonai"

"Jesus" in the New Testament is just a personal name, Iēsous in greek.In Hebrew or Aramaic it would Yeshua, which is basically the same root we get the name Joshua from. Jesus is basically the modern English version of Yeshua. Were you baptized in the name of Yeshua? If not you were not baptized in the correct name, eh?

You are denying the trinity when you say Jesus was the name only of the Son. God is one indivisible being called YHWH in the OT which turns into Jesus Christ in the NT. “Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” Jude 5 (ESV)

“and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they were all drinking from the spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ.” (1 Corinthians 10:4)

[tabibito]

You are denying the trinity when you say Jesus was the name only of the Son. God is one indivisible being called YHWH in the OT which turns into Jesus Christ in the NT. “Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” Jude 5 (ESV)

“and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they were all drinking from the spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ.” (1 Corinthians 10:4)

I think at this point that you have Calvinism vanished even from your rearview mirror.

[Dave L]

I think at this point that you have Calvinism vanished even from your rearview mirror.

Your insult tells me, you have nothing but pent-up frustration to run on. Try to be more like Jesus.

[rogue06]

Your insult tells me, you have nothing but pent-up frustration to run on. Try to be more like Jesus.

Be careful what you wish for.

For instance, look at what Christ said in Matthew 23:33 to the Pharisees: "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?" In the same exchange He repeatedly and explicitly referred to them as "hypocrites," as well as "whitewashed tombs" (looks good on the outside but full of rot and uncleanness on the inside), "blind fools" and even "child of hell" (in John 8:44 He said "You are of your father the devil"). Earlier at His baptism He called the Pharisees and Sadducees a brood of vipers (Matthew 3:7) and again after casting out a demon He said "You brood of vipers! How can you speak good, when you are evil?" (Matthew 12:34).

Or maybe he should make a scourge out of cords and drive you away like Jesus did in John 2.

[tabibito]

Your insult tells me, you have nothing but pent-up frustration to run on. Try to be more like Jesus.

Calvinism at least acknowledges the reality of the trinity as distinct "persons" of God. Jesus is the name by which Logos came to be known - the Father and the Holy Spirit are not known by that name.

[Dave L]

Be careful what you wish for.

For instance, look at what Christ said in Matthew 23:33 to the Pharisees: "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?" In the same exchange He repeatedly and explicitly referred to them as "hypocrites," as well as "whitewashed tombs" (looks good on the outside but full of rot and uncleanness on the inside), "blind fools" and even "child of hell" (in John 8:44 He said "You are of your father the devil"). Earlier at His baptism He called the Pharisees and Sadducees a brood of vipers (Matthew 3:7) and again after casting out a demon He said "You brood of vipers! How can you speak good, when you are evil?" (Matthew 12:34).

Or maybe he should make a scourge out of cords and drive you away like Jesus did in John 2.

But, you nor he are Jesus and you spout nothing but hatred of me. How can you call yourself a Christian with this type of conduct?

[tabibito]

But, you nor he are Jesus and you spout nothing but hatred of me. How can you call yourself a Christian with this type of conduct?

You have mistaken a mirror for a telescope.

Hypocrite - your posts are littered with egregious insults levelled at all and sundry.

[Dave L]

You have mistaken a mirror for a telescope.

You need to prove I'm wrong instead of insulting me.

[tabibito]

You need to prove I'm wrong instead of insulting me.

You think pointing out a simple fact - that your claims about Jesus being the name for the trinity have no place within Calvinism - is an insult? Really?

Cite (from an official source) the teaching of Calvinism that says the same.

[Dave L]

You think pointing out a simple fact - that your claims about Jesus being the name for the trinity have no place within Calvinism - is an insult? Really?

Cite (from an official source) the teaching of Calvinism that says the same.

“Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” Jude 5 (ESV)

[tabibito]

“Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” Jude 5 (ESV)

More accurate translations actually translate the Koine Greek, "kurios," as "lord" in that passage.

[Dave L]

You think pointing out a simple fact - that your claims about Jesus being the name for the trinity have no place within Calvinism - is an insult? Really?

Cite (from an official source) the teaching of Calvinism that says the same.

Calvinism has nothing to do with this. It's the trinity and the name God goes by. It was YHWH in the OT, and Jesus Christ in the NT. “Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” Jude 5 (ESV)

[rogue06]

Your insult tells me, you have nothing but pent-up frustration to run on. Try to be more like Jesus.

Be careful what you wish for.

For instance, look at what Christ said in Matthew 23:33 to the Pharisees: "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?" In the same exchange He repeatedly and explicitly referred to them as "hypocrites," as well as "whitewashed tombs" (looks good on the outside but full of rot and uncleanness on the inside), "blind fools" and even "child of hell" (in John 8:44 He said "You are of your father the devil"). Earlier at His baptism He called the Pharisees and Sadducees a brood of vipers (Matthew 3:7) and again after casting out a demon He said "You brood of vipers! How can you speak good, when you are evil?" (Matthew 12:34).

Or maybe he should make a scourge out of cords and drive you away like Jesus did in John 2.

But, you nor he are Jesus and you spout nothing but hatred of me. How can you call yourself a Christian with this type of conduct?

Aside from the fact that you're projecting big time here, remember what I said yesterday about your habit of contradicting yourself on the same page?

[Dave L]

Aside from the fact that you're projecting big time here, remember what I said yesterday about your habit of contradicting yourself on the same page?

Only if you twist my words or misunderstand them. Smearing me with false charges is less than Christ-like.

[tabibito]

Calvinism has nothing to do with this. It's the trinity and the name God goes by. It was YHWH in the OT, and Jesus Christ in the NT. “Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” Jude 5 (ESV)

You may cite an inaccurate translation as much as you like - the source texts say "lord," not "Jesus."