Arminian churches are going to have some issues with the "enabling them to respond" part of #4.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
I dunno, some kind of trinity of trinities super-perfection?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I think the only one I might question is #9, in that there should be a pastor or lead elder or.... unless I misunderstand the "plurality of elders"....Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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I still think the "letters to the churches" are written to the "angels" or "pastors" of those churches --- one pastor per church.
And I think somebody has to be the vision caster or primary peson responsible.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostArminian churches are going to have some issues with the "enabling them to respond" part of #4.
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I still think the "letters to the churches" are written to the "angels" or "pastors" of those churches --- one pastor per church.Last edited by tabibito; 08-16-2021, 09:35 PM.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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I'm certainly not going to build a theology or religion over it.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
"Angel" also means "messenger", so it could be the 'church clerk' or somebody in charge of correspondence or receipt or delivery of circulars or something.
I'm certainly not going to build a theology or religion over it.
Angel (angelos, that is) is a word with such a broad range of meanings. Maybe even extending to a person's spirit, if the "Peter at the gate" event is any guide.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
True enough - you'd only get lost in the crowd anyway.
Angel (angelos, that is) is a word with such a broad range of meanings. Maybe even extending to a person's spirit, if the "Peter at the gate" event is any guide.
One thing we know, there will be greater accountability from God to those who step up to lead.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I think we need to be fruit inspectors. If a Church is preaching the Word, winning the lost and equipping the saints, and abiding in unity, it's hard to argue.
One thing we know, there will be greater accountability from God to those who step up to lead."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
I agree. Unfortunately too many people misapply judge not least you be judged at this point.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think we need to be fruit inspectors. If a Church is preaching the Word, winning the lost and equipping the saints, and abiding in unity, it's hard to argue.
One thing we know, there will be greater accountability from God to those who step up to lead.
EGGzackly... the same God who tells us not to Judge (through Matthew and elsewhere) also tells us to test the spirits to see if they be of God, and to look at a person's fruit...Last edited by tabibito; 08-17-2021, 07:43 AM.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
How can you say that?! It is all faith alone, don't you know?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus Christ and Righteousness --- not so much fallible man.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOur Church is in the process of establishing an Elder group, in addition, and along side of, our deacons.
Recently, we had a lady join our church who appears to be very well grounded in the Word, and just seems to ooze wisdom.
She asked me, Sunday Morning between Sunday School and Church, if we were moving toward a 9Marks model.
I had never even heard of 9Marks, so I Googled it real quick (https://www.9marks.org/), and discovered it's a THING.
Later, I started drilling down on what 9Marks is all about, and it's nothing at all scary, and has a lot of good rationale behind it.
Anybody know anything about this?
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Originally posted by Esther View Post
Interesting. A woman oozing wisdom, no but really that and her approaching you so soon after joining and with such an odd question.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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