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    Now, I think we all know that a physical resurrection of the dead has been promised to us. Do you think most Christians even realize that it will happen? How big of an issue is it do you think for those who incorrectly plan on ditching their bodies for Heaven, rather than wearing a new body into Heaven?

    Inspired by a post I read by a distant relative on Facebook recently.

    I'll share my thoughts down thread.

    Edit: If mods think this is more appropriate for Eschatology please move it.
    Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5

  • #2
    I'm not too sure about total numbers of Christians, but I think certain denominations and churches would have higher numbers than others for sure. I think a large number of people in my own Church (Orthodox) know that it will happen since it is highly emphasized around Pascha and in many Orthodox sermons. From my own experience, I don't think the general resurrection is emphasized a lot in many Protestant and evangelical churches. They certainly believe it, but it probably isn't as well known amongst the laity.
    "Concentrate on what you have to do. Fix your eyes on it. Remind yourself that your task is to be a good human being; remind yourself what nature demands of people. Then do it, without hesitation, and speak the truth as you see it. But with kindness. With humility. Without hypocrisy."
    -Marcus Aurelius

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    • #3
      I'm not understanding... here's our statement from the Baptist Faith & Message....

      Source: BF&M


      God, in His own time and in His own way, will bring the world to its appropriate end. According to His promise, Jesus Christ will return personally and visibly in glory to the earth; the dead will be raised; and Christ will judge all men in righteousness. The unrighteous will be consigned to Hell, the place of everlasting punishment. The righteous in their resurrected and glorified bodies will receive their reward and will dwell forever in Heaven with the Lord.

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      Is there a distinction between our "resurrected and glorified bodies" and a "physical resurrection"?
      "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        I'm not understanding... here's our statement from the Baptist Faith & Message....

        Source: BF&M


        God, in His own time and in His own way, will bring the world to its appropriate end. According to His promise, Jesus Christ will return personally and visibly in glory to the earth; the dead will be raised; and Christ will judge all men in righteousness. The unrighteous will be consigned to Hell, the place of everlasting punishment. The righteous in their resurrected and glorified bodies will receive their reward and will dwell forever in Heaven with the Lord.

        © Copyright Original Source



        Is there a distinction between our "resurrected and glorified bodies" and a "physical resurrection"?
        I think what he's getting at is how some people think we won't have any bodies at all in heaven but will just be disembodied spirits floating around.
        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
          I think what he's getting at is how some people think we won't have any bodies at all in heaven but will just be disembodied spirits floating around.
          Ah... I don't know of ANY church I've been in (as a member or staff) where it was NOT preached that "we'll have a new body"... one of our favorite songs is...

          on that resurrection morning when all the dead in Christ shall rise
          I'll have a new body, praise the Lord, I'll have a new life....



          further, we believe that the "disembodied spirit" is a characteristic of demons, and sets them apart (among other things, of course) from angels.
          "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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          • #6
            Thank you both for your responses.

            There is a slight difference CP, because as I understand it the saved will be raised in bodies just as you described that are still physical, in the pattern of our Lord's resurrection. OTOH those consigned to hell will be raised in their dry bones. All will be resurrected, but not all in like manner so to say.
            Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5

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            • #7
              It is my understanding that genuine Christians NOW have eternal life. And the future "Adoption" is the resurrection of the body. (Romans 8:23.) When we see Christ (Acts 1:11, 1 John 3:2, Philippians 3:20, 21.)
              . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

              . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

              Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pentecost View Post
                Thank you both for your responses.

                There is a slight difference CP, because as I understand it the saved will be raised in bodies just as you described that are still physical, in the pattern of our Lord's resurrection. OTOH those consigned to hell will be raised in their dry bones. All will be resurrected, but not all in like manner so to say.
                Ah, OK.... this is one area where I will clearly admit lack of knowledge --- I've often wondered about the folks who had organ transplants, or were totally consumed in fire, or other problems. I just trust that the Lord will "make it happen" one way or another, but, yes, a bodily resurrection is, I think, pretty commonly accepted in the Baptist world, at least.
                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                • #9
                  Didn't Paul talk about why the physical Resurrection has to be true?
                  But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied. 19If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied. 1 Corinthians 15:12-19 NIV http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/15.htm
                  If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                    Didn't Paul talk about why the physical Resurrection has to be true?
                    Yes, I just don't know exactly what that looks like. And I have difficulty understanding if this isn't commonly accepted in evangelical circles.
                    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Ah, OK.... this is one area where I will clearly admit lack of knowledge --- I've often wondered about the folks who had organ transplants, or were totally consumed in fire, or other problems. I just trust that the Lord will "make it happen" one way or another, but, yes, a bodily resurrection is, I think, pretty commonly accepted in the Baptist world, at least.
                      I also wonder if people with disabilities will have them cured in heaven or not. One could argue that Jesus says it is possible to enter with only one eye, but who knows?
                      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                        I also wonder if people with disabilities will have them cured in heaven or not.
                        Absolutely.

                        Rev 21:[3]*And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. [4]*And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
                        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                        • #13
                          is the body in bodily resurrection a physical or spiritual body?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by princesa View Post
                            is the body in bodily resurrection a physical or spiritual body?
                            I think physical, yes, but probably not in the same sense we are used to.
                            1 Corinthians 15:52 says that "the dead will be raised incorruptible".
                            Jesus Christ is "the first fruits" of those who have died (1 Corinthians 15:20, 23).
                            1 Corinthians 15:42 says that our "body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption."
                            Thomas, in John 20:27, physically touched the body of Christ following His resurrection, so He had a physical body.
                            Jesus preceded us in death, conquered it, and in Him we have the Hope of eternal life.
                            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              I think physical, yes, but probably not in the same sense we are used to.
                              1 Corinthians 15:52 says that "the dead will be raised incorruptible".
                              Jesus Christ is "the first fruits" of those who have died (1 Corinthians 15:20, 23).
                              1 Corinthians 15:42 says that our "body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption."
                              Thomas, in John 20:27, physically touched the body of Christ following His resurrection, so He had a physical body.
                              Jesus preceded us in death, conquered it, and in Him we have the Hope of eternal life.
                              Of course! There's no death or pain in the New Heavens and New Earth, which implies to me that our bodies will be different than the ones we have now. Invulnerable?
                              If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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