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Can a AI have a soul?

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  • Can a AI have a soul?

    It's something I've been pondering for quite sometime, and I'm not sure where I stand...
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    Originally posted by Irate Canadian View Post
    It's something I've been pondering for quite sometime, and I'm not sure where I stand...
    Define "soul".

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    • #3
      Where would it get one from? That's the real question.

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      • #4
        When AIs get so powerful that they are almost indistinguishable from humans we're going to have to treat them like conscious, souled beings because we'll never know for sure
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        • #5
          Anything made by humans has no soul.


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          • #6
            Here's a link to a paper called, "Validation of individual consciousness in strong artificial intelligence : an African theological contribution."

            I'm not totally sure whether this would answer what you're asking.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mossrose View Post
              Anything made by humans has no soul.
              Would that extend to human clones as well?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
                Define "soul".
                The capability to enter the kingdom of heaven and a eternal character of its moral decisions.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Irate Canadian View Post
                  Would that extend to human clones as well?
                  I knew someone would ask that.

                  I don't know. Maybe we will never get that far.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                    I knew someone would ask that.

                    I don't know. Maybe we will never get that far.
                    Sadly, we're getting closer and closer day by day..
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                      I knew someone would ask that.

                      I don't know. Maybe we will never get that far.
                      A clone would just be like having an identical twin that was much younger than you. Do identical twins only have one soul since they're technically clones of each other?
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                      • #12
                        I guess only God knows and will decide some of these issues.

                        And ultimately, there is a huge difference between a clone and an AI. An AI is not human.


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Irate Canadian View Post
                          The capability to enter the kingdom of heaven and a eternal character of its moral decisions.
                          ? Come again?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                            I knew someone would ask that.

                            I don't know. Maybe we will never get that far.
                            Human DNA was made by God. Clones are just like identical twins, just artificially caused by man. Not different in principle from fertility treatments.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
                              Human DNA was made by God. Clones are just like identical twins, just artificially caused by man. Not different in principle from fertility treatments.
                              But where does the soul originate? Is it a product of the reproduction process or something else? If something else, it's easy to see why twins have individual souls regardless of their DNA - and hard to see how you get the same effect in a petri dish. If it's just a reproductive process, then how would a computer get one?

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