Jason Westerfield rebuked by Bill Johnson

[Pentecost]

Bill Johnson of Bethel (Redding) a well known Charismatic who left the Assembly of God a few years ago and who teaches and sponsors a rather extreme form of charismatic theology, has rebuked from the pulpit a former student named Jason Westerfield who travels world wide and from what I know of him he has claimed gold dust miracles, blessing children with photographic memories, and likes to talk about aliens. Bill Johnson claimed that Jason Westerfield carried a "demonic impartation" and had a spirit of deceit iirc.

Following the name drop he quoted 1 John 1:6.

Later he taught about "more at any cost." Bringing up Torronto, Pensacola, and his own personal mystic experiences, and further explained "more at any cost within Biblical understanding" or something close to that.

He mentioned cults.

Long story short, a leader on the fringe has cut ties (including financial ties) with an someone most would probably call a heretic.

The full sermon is available through iTunes it's from April 26.

I really don't even know what to say about this. (Maybe Ecclesiology is better?)

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[Paprika]

Long story short, a leader on the fringe has cut ties (including financial ties) with an someone most would probably call a heretic.

Sounds like pot and kettle.

[Pentecost]

Sounds like pot and kettle.

I'm not entirely sure. Johnson is someone I'd hesitantly support, whereas Westerfield is apparently wacko enough that he's been disassociated. I find it encouraging that a seperation is being made, and hopefully its the first of many throughout the charismatic culture.

[Raphael]

I'm not entirely sure. Johnson is someone I'd hesitantly support, whereas Westerfield is apparently wacko enough that he's been disassociated. I find it encouraging that a seperation is being made, and hopefully its the first of many throughout the charismatic culture.

I'm hoping there is a general disassociation with Todd Bentley....although I haven't heard much of him lately.

[T-Shirt Ninja]

I'm hoping there is a general disassociation with Todd Bentley....although I haven't heard much of him lately.

The last I heard he still does preaching and "healing" but on a much smaller scale. I saw a video of a service he did and one guy started to call him out loudly and was escorted out of the building. Not really the best way to handle someone like Bentley, IMO.

[Paprika]

I'm not entirely sure. Johnson is someone I'd hesitantly support, whereas Westerfield is apparently wacko enough that he's been disassociated.

So in a field of many wackos, one lesser wacko has publicly declared dissociation from a greater wacko.

[Pentecost]

So in a field of many wackos, one lesser wacko has publicly declared dissociation from a greater wacko.

Bill Johnson is famous to charismatics (at least in the circles I go through) like maybe Rob Bell for liberals, or maybe John MacArthur to Calvinists, not everything he says is assumed to be true, but we test everything and hold fast to what is good, and take him at his word. He is certainly... Extreme but if others follow his lead this could lead to an obvious seperation between sound teachers, and prosperity/new age/name it claim it charlatans who should be held accountable at least so their congregations learn of their deception.

[Paprika]

Extreme but if others follow his lead this could lead to an obvious seperation between sound teachers, and prosperity/new age/name it claim it charlatans who should be held accountable at least so their congregations learn of their deception.

If systematic it could be good, otherwise it's just another form of power struggle.

[Pentecost]

If systematic it could be good, otherwise it's just another form of power struggle.

That's a good point.

[Empiri]

Bill Johnson of Bethel (Redding) a well known Charismatic who left the Assembly of God a few years ago and who teaches and sponsors a rather extreme form of charismatic theology, has rebuked from the pulpit a former student named Jason Westerfield who travels world wide and from what I know of him he has claimed gold dust miracles, blessing children with photographic memories, and likes to talk about aliens. Bill Johnson claimed that Jason Westerfield carried a "demonic impartation" and had a spirit of deceit iirc.

Following the name drop he quoted 1 John 1:6.

Later he taught about "more at any cost." Bringing up Torronto, Pensacola, and his own personal mystic experiences, and further explained "more at any cost within Biblical understanding" or something close to that.

He mentioned cults.

Long story short, a leader on the fringe has cut ties (including financial ties) with an someone most would probably call a heretic.

The full sermon is available through iTunes it's from April 26.

I really don't even know what to say about this. (Maybe Ecclesiology is better?)

Edit: If you know about this, you probably know more than I do about this, please share.