Announcement

Collapse

Christianity 201 Guidelines

orthodox Christians only.

Discussion on matters of general mainstream evangelical Christian theology that do not fit within Theology 201. Have some spiritual gifts ceased today? Is the KJV the only viable translation for the church today? In what sense are the books of the bible inspired and what are those books? Church government? Modern day prophets and apostles?

This forum is primarily for Christians to discuss matters of Christian doctrine, and is not the area for debate between atheists (or those opposing orthodox Christianity) and Christians. Inquiring atheists (or sincere seekers/doubters/unorthodox) seeking only Christian participation and having demonstrated a manner that does not seek to undermine the orthodox Christian faith of others are also welcome, but must seek Moderator permission first. When defining “Christian” or "orthodox" for purposes of this section, we mean persons holding to the core essentials of the historic Christian faith such as the Trinity, the Creatorship of God, the virgin birth, the bodily resurrection of Christ, the atonement, the future bodily return of Christ, the future bodily resurrection of the just and the unjust, and the final judgment. Persons not holding to these core doctrines are welcome to participate in the Comparative Religions section without restriction, in Theology 201 as regards to the nature of God and salvation with limited restrictions, and in Christology for issues surrounding the person of Christ and the Trinity. Atheists are welcome to discuss and debate these issues in the Apologetics 301 forum without such restrictions.

Additionally and rarely, there may be some topics or lines of discussion that within the Moderator's discretion fall so outside the bounds of mainstream orthodox doctrine (in general Christian circles or in the TheologyWeb community) or that deny certain core values that are the Christian convictions of forum leadership that may be more appropriately placed within Unorthodox Theology 201. NO personal offense should be taken by such discretionary decision for none is intended. While inerrancy is NOT considered a requirement for posting in this section, a general respect for the Bible text and a respect for the inerrantist position of others is requested.

The Tweb rules apply here like they do everywhere at Tweb, if you haven't read them, now would be a good time.

Forum Rules: Here
See more
See less

Laments

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Laments

    I came across this paragraph while researching for a paper I'm writing on how the church can reach sexual abuse victims. I think it speaks for itself... the fact that most churches don't do this sort of thing seems hard to square with the idea that there's an entire book of the Bible called Lamentations.

    Very few hymns express lament and psalms that are used in a
    modern paraphrase are almost never psalms of lament, but usually
    psalms of praise. And there is rarely formal liturgical provision
    for the expression of lament. The virtual exclusion of
    lament from most Christian worship carries a strong implicit
    message that such lament has no legitimate place in worship.
    Yet most congregations most of the time will have someone
    who is hurting.
    - R.W.L. Moberly
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

  • #2
    Hmmmmm

    giving this a mull
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

    Comment


    • #3
      <insert standard comment about how Protestant horror of Tradition has generally led them to abandon using the Psalms as part of liturgy and hence the laments within>

      Comment


      • #4
        http://matthewjacoby.tumblr.com/post...-i-was-driving (click the play button to hear the music)

        One of the things I like about Sons of Korah is that they play all the Psalms, not just the happy ones.

        Comment


        • #5
          Tenebrae. It's awesome... though it does only happen once a year

          And then there's the various settings of the Miserere and a lot of other similar hymns that come out around Holy Week (but only then ).

          Incidentally, KG, have you come across either of these documents in your research?
          http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...nc-itc_en.html
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dives_in_misericordia
          Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
            Incidentally, KG, have you come across either of these documents in your research?
            http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...nc-itc_en.html
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dives_in_misericordia
            No; it's a semester project and I just started my research yesterday. I'll give those a look, thanks.
            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
              No; it's a semester project and I just started my research yesterday. I'll give those a look, thanks.
              The first is, IIRC, a theological exploration/explanation of Pope John Paul II's various apologies during the Jubilee Year in 2000-- that is, an answer to the question, in what sense is it possible for the Church to apologize or ask forgiveness for sins committed by its members?
              Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                <insert standard comment about how Protestant horror of Tradition has generally led them to abandon using the Psalms as part of liturgy and hence the laments within>

                <add in standard quote about how the modern church has removed mention of suffering from the believer's life>
                "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

                Comment

                Related Threads

                Collapse

                Topics Statistics Last Post
                Started by Ana Dragule, 11-13-2020, 01:47 AM
                2 responses
                33 views
                1 like
                Last Post seanD
                by seanD
                 
                Started by Thoughtful Monk, 11-11-2020, 03:18 PM
                5 responses
                51 views
                1 like
                Last Post Christian3  
                Started by mossrose, 11-08-2020, 03:50 PM
                1 response
                29 views
                5 likes
                Last Post Sparko
                by Sparko
                 
                Started by Faber, 11-06-2020, 11:51 AM
                1 response
                5 views
                0 likes
                Last Post Faber
                by Faber
                 
                Started by DesertBerean, 11-02-2020, 02:57 PM
                Working...
                X