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  • #16
    Originally posted by Sparrow View Post
    That's helpful, yes. Some of those reasons I guessed at, having heard them before in different contexts, but not all of them.

    Personally, I've seen a lot of positive effects and increased fruitfulness from long-term commitments to missions work in contrast to shorter commitments of two years or less. Because of my experience in an environment where longer-term commitments were particularly fruitful and just a general tendency to admire people who devote their whole live to one thing, I tend to view long-term and lifelong commitments (e.g. the EO St. Nicholas Kasatkin of Japan) very positively. And I also tend to be very suspicious of ministry models where people move around so much that there is neither accountability for how the missionaries/ministers live their lives nor follow-up for the people they minister to. So coming from that kind of perspective, where I've been looking at the positive aspects of long-term commitments and the unideal and easily-exploitable aspects of vagrant ministry, it is just curious to me to see a different model being recommended, especially in contrast to the monastic virtue of stability.

    But six years is a very solid chunk of time, so I don't think it would have the pitfalls of, say, tent revival preaching. Spending six years in one place is definitely respectable.

    Anyways, thanks for the insight into the reasoning behind that ministry model.
    There's room for several different models and I also respect the long-term model. The pastor of the church where I grew up served there from when he was 25 until he died in his 80s. He was completely devoted to the parish families and school and was greatly loved. The only time I ever knew of my father crying was at his funeral.
    βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
    ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

    אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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    • #17
      Originally posted by T-Shirt Ninja View Post
      Has anyone ever been to a monastery before? If so, what were your experiences there like?

      (Also, I wasn't sure if this shouldn't instead be in Ecclesiology since Protestants don't have monasteries, but please move it if you feel it's more appropriate there).
      ## To a Benedictine abbey, a good number of years ago. Nothing to report. I'm not sure what sort of answer is expected. IIRC, I stayed there for the better part of a week.

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      • #18
        I went to a monastery in Germany before. Had to walk up a freaking mountain to get to it. But at the top they had one awesome beer garden and oompa band.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by T-Shirt Ninja View Post
          Has anyone ever been to a monastery before? If so, what were your experiences there like?
          I spent a week at the Monastery of St. Tikhon of Zadonsk in South Canaan, PA a couple years ago. Very peaceful, and I liked being able to go to services every day.

          While in Israel the year before that, I visited the monasteries of St. Gerasimos, St. John and George Chozebites, and Mar Sabas. At the second, I venerated the incorrupt relics of St. John of Neamt, who reposed there c. 1960 IIRC. The feeling of peace by his relics was ...intense. Not sure how else to describe it.
          (Also, I wasn't sure if this shouldn't instead be in Ecclesiology since Protestants don't have monasteries, but please move it if you feel it's more appropriate there).
          There are actually a few Anglican monasteries in the US (and even a Lutheran monastery in Oxford, MI, though its website is down at the moment).
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