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  • Scrawly
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    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    So which bit made your stomach churn? It's somewhat incomplete, but it's not far off the mark AFAICS.
    Well it seems that this sort of talk results in more talk and never really exits the realm of ethereal chatter. That wasn't a quote, I made it up to demonstrate it's effect, which is essentially in one ear and out the other. Something one forgets within a matter of seconds.

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  • Cow Poke
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    So, I'm curious.. I have often started threads on Tweb about things that happened in my Church, or to me or my family, and the insight I have gained, etc.... would those things merit a "shush"?

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  • One Bad Pig
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    Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
    God wants to transform our appetites into a hunger for him and true intimacy and freedom comes about when we single-mindedly focus our being and align our will with his. This will accomplish the purposes of God in our lives.

    See how easy it is to compose fluffy rhetoric? It felt like snake-oil as I was writing it.
    So which bit made your stomach churn? It's somewhat incomplete, but it's not far off the mark AFAICS.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
    Yup because sometimes I feel I need to get things off my chest and express myself.
    Well, then, ya done fine!

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  • Scrawly
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I'm a little confused --- you're tired of hearing, listening, reading people talk about God, so you write a post where you talk about THEM?
    Yup because sometimes I feel I need to get things off my chest and express myself.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
    Sometimes I'm sick of hearing, listening, reading people talk about God. It honestly gets nauseating. You can go on social media and find links to sermons, new books, debates, etc. and I come across these quotes from all sorts of Christian leaders out there. Here's one from Tim Keller:

    "Prayer is the only entryway into genuine self-knowledge. It is also the main way we experience deep change—the reordering of our loves. Prayer is how God gives us so many of the unimaginable things he has for us. Indeed, prayer makes it safe for God to give us many of the things we most desire. It is the way we know God, the way we finally treat God as God. Prayer is simply the key to everything we need to do and be in life. We must learn to pray. We have to."

    As much as I can appreciate the work these brothers and sisters do and the pure heart that produces material such as the above, sometimes, I just want to say "Oh shush". Quotes like the above just seem almost annoying to me. At some point talk like this ceases to be insightful, cleaver, or even helpful. It's like a politician spewing out rhetoric to maintain and solidify himself as a leader in the minds of his followers. Please for the love of God, stop writing books on topics that amount to nothing more than idle Epicurean-like speculation. Write a book with the following content:

    "Go feed the homeless and stop being a glutton for borderline useless information. Read the Bible and spend time in prayer - it's really that simple guys".

    Does anyone else feel similar?
    I'm a little confused --- you're tired of hearing, listening, reading people talk about God, so you write a post where you talk about THEM?

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  • Scrawly
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    Originally posted by Obsidian View Post
    If you are saying that sermons should be more Bible-based and less rhetorical, then I agree,
    God wants to transform our appetites into a hunger for him and true intimacy and freedom comes about when we single-mindedly focus our being and align our will with his. This will accomplish the purposes of God in our lives.

    See how easy it is to compose fluffy rhetoric? It felt like snake-oil as I was writing it.

    Leave a comment:


  • Catholicity
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    Your statement is vague. Could you go into a little more depth please?

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  • Obsidian
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    If you are saying that sermons should be more Bible-based and less rhetorical, then I agree,

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  • Scrawly
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    Oh Shush

    Sometimes I'm sick of hearing, listening, reading people talk about God. It honestly gets nauseating. You can go on social media and find links to sermons, new books, debates, etc. and I come across these quotes from all sorts of Christian leaders out there. Here's one from Tim Keller:

    "Prayer is the only entryway into genuine self-knowledge. It is also the main way we experience deep change—the reordering of our loves. Prayer is how God gives us so many of the unimaginable things he has for us. Indeed, prayer makes it safe for God to give us many of the things we most desire. It is the way we know God, the way we finally treat God as God. Prayer is simply the key to everything we need to do and be in life. We must learn to pray. We have to."

    As much as I can appreciate the work these brothers and sisters do and the pure heart that produces material such as the above, sometimes, I just want to say "Oh shush". Quotes like the above just seem almost annoying to me. At some point talk like this ceases to be insightful, cleaver, or even helpful. It's like a politician spewing out rhetoric to maintain and solidify himself as a leader in the minds of his followers. Please for the love of God, stop writing books on topics that amount to nothing more than idle Epicurean-like speculation. Write a book with the following content:

    "Go feed the homeless and stop being a glutton for borderline useless information. Read the Bible and spend time in prayer - it's really that simple guys".

    Does anyone else feel similar?

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