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A Question for Messianic Jews

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  • #31
    Originally posted by robrecht View Post
    Are there other aspects of Jesus' humanity that you think he must somehow renounce or relinquish? Or just his Jewishness?
    Its hard to say because the glorified humanity is vastly different from our current state, I imagine. In Christ there is no Jew nor Gentile, no male nor female, etc. I think this reality will be fully realized in our glorified state that will utterly eclipse all earthly distinctions.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
      Its hard to say because the glorified humanity is vastly different from our current state, I imagine. In Christ there is no Jew nor Gentile, no male nor female, etc. I think this reality will be fully realized in our glorified state that will utterly eclipse all earthly distinctions.
      So do you also think that Jesus used to be a man but now he is neither a man nor a woman? Likewise, he is neither a slave nor free? Even now, Jesus, as God, has no free will? Do you think Galatians 3,28 is really speaking of Christ's lack of sexual identity?
      βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
      ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

      אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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      • #33
        Originally posted by robrecht View Post
        So do you also think that Jesus used to be a man but now he is neither a man nor a woman? Likewise, he is neither a slave nor free? Even now, Jesus, as God, has no free will? Do you think Galatians 3,28 is really speaking of Christ's lack of sexual identity?
        As stated, its hard to say because the glorified humanity is vastly different from our current state. I will state that Jesus is glorified in fullness of deity - that is His identity, anything else is speculation that I cannot confirm or deny, but I do have a viewpoint that has been stated, and I think it is faithful to the Scriptures.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
          As stated, its hard to say because the glorified humanity is vastly different from our current state. I will state that Jesus is glorified in fullness of deity - that is His identity, anything else is speculation that I cannot confirm or deny, but I do have a viewpoint that has been stated, and I think it is faithful to the Scriptures.
          I agree. Personally, I tend to think of such heavenly realities as everything we know currently and much, much more. If we go about subtracting things that we know now, we end up not being able to say or imagine anything at all, which I do not disagree with either, but I would usually rather affirm what we currently know of reality than say nothing at all. But I still see no reason to deny Jesus' Jewish identity. But we can just agree to disagree about that. When you pray to Jesus, do you still use his given, Jewish, name?
          βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
          ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

          אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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          • #35
            Originally posted by robrecht View Post
            I agree. Personally, I tend to think of such heavenly realities as everything we know currently and much, much more. If we go about subtracting things that we know now, we end up not being able to say or imagine anything at all, which I do not disagree with either, but I would usually rather affirm what we currently know of reality than say nothing at all. But I still see no reason to deny Jesus' Jewish identity. But we can just agree to disagree about that. When you pray to Jesus, do you still use his given, Jewish, name?
            Thanks for the discussion Rob, it's always a WONDROUS experience interacting with you.

            In prayer I mostly use Lord-God, Lord-Jesus, and Father-God.

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