Like the title says. I'm not just looking for Biblical support of the practice, but a theological exploration of the practice of prayer and how it relates to making requests for or about others.
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostLike the title says. I'm not just looking for Biblical support of the practice, but a theological exploration of the practice of prayer and how it relates to making requests for or about others.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostPraying for others draws us closer to them. It's quite evident (from passages that enjoin us to love our enemies) that wishing evil upon those we don't like is wrong. From personal experience, it's awful tough to hate someone you're praying for. So when I'm debating someone, I try to make it a point to pray for them, especially during the liturgy.Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostIf you can think of a better one, feel free to suggest it and explain whyThe greater number of laws . . . , the more thieves . . . there will be. ---- Lao-Tzu
[T]he truth I’m after and the truth never harmed anyone. What harms us is to persist in self-deceit and ignorance -— Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
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Originally posted by Truthseeker View PostWhy not Theology 201? The ambit of your OP seems to be larger than that of just Christianity 201. I could be mistaken, perhaps I fail to comprehend correctly your OP.
Xianity 201: General topics within historic Christianity. Christian Only.
Which one looks broader to you?Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostI have no clue why Theology is limited to discussions on salvation and foreknowledge. It should be changed.That's what
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostPraying for others draws us closer to them. It's quite evident (from passages that enjoin us to love our enemies) that wishing evil upon those we don't like is wrong. From personal experience, it's awful tough to hate someone you're praying for. So when I'm debating someone, I try to make it a point to pray for them, especially during the liturgy.
When I find myself getting angry with someone, on tweb or real life, I will pray for their well being even if I don't want to, and I find myself after a while, really wanting them to do well and start to care for them.
My boss at work really ticked me off at my last review and seemed to be out to nitpick the smallest things in order to give me negative feedback and that really made me angry at him. But I decided I needed to pray for him and started doing so. The anger melted away and now I am trying to understand him better and what is going on in his life.
Prayer helps us learn and practice empathy.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postvery true!
When I find myself getting angry with someone, on tweb or real life, I will pray for their well being even if I don't want to, and I find myself after a while, really wanting them to do well and start to care for them.
My boss at work really ticked me off at my last review and seemed to be out to nitpick the smallest things in order to give me negative feedback and that really made me angry at him. But I decided I needed to pray for him and started doing so. The anger melted away and now I am trying to understand him better and what is going on in his life.
Prayer helps us learn and practice empathy.Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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