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  • #46
    See Post #52.

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    • #47
      I keep forgetting you reject sola scriptura.
      sigpic1 Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Obsidian View Post
        My position, which the GES used to adopt before it more recently switched over to 37818's view, is that repentance just means to "change," and in context, is usually referring to a change of beliefs rather than a change of works.
        Paul preached to all men everywhere (according to his own account) that they should repent and produce works in keeping with repentance. These works could reasonably be considered to include the matter of purifying one's self.

        I disagree with foudroyant's assertion that repentance is a core part of the gospel, because it is possible to simply teach someone the correct beliefs without emphasizing the need to change from false beliefs.
        repentance involves turning to God in equal measure with turning away from former practices.
        False beliefs may be included in the things that need to be repented of.


        To answer the original question, if someone advocates a false gospel I would be hesitant about accepting anything else the person says.
        Which necessitates examining what is being taught very carefully to see whether it aligns with the scriptures as it should.
        Are we saved by faith alone? Which scriptures (if any) say "alone" and which scriptures (if any) combine other things with faith with regard to salvation? It is unlikely that any given person will be able to guarantee that his concepts even of the basics are entirely without flaw. So it is necessary to be open for any new information that might be presented to indicate that a change of opinion might be in order.
        sigpic1 Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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        • #49
          Originally posted by tabibito View Post
          I keep forgetting you reject sola scriptura.
          No, you are just a coward.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
            No, you are just a coward.
            So incredibly mature and scholarly! Gotta love it!
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #51
              Love your own stupidity dopey.
              He thinks Cornelius and those with him were not saved until the were water baptized.

              Join the heretics Poker.
              Last edited by foudroyant; 08-20-2014, 10:49 AM.

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              • #52


                Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
                Love your own stupidity dopey.
                That's what ya got, Foud! This is who you are!
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #53
                  Join him in his heresy then.

                  And you are a pastor?

                  Frightening.

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                  • #54
                    Foudroyant's charge of cowardice against me might just have some merit. I kind of shy away from being pushed into a position where I might have to hand him into his own desire.
                    Last edited by tabibito; 08-20-2014, 10:54 AM.
                    sigpic1 Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
                      Join him in his heresy then.
                      How in the WORLD do you get "join him in his heresy" from me being amused at your immaturity?

                      And you are a pastor?
                      Yes, but even pastors need a good laugh once in a while.

                      Frightening.
                      So, you call people cowards, yet you're easily frightened.

                      Trust Jesus, Foud --- He can help you.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                        Foudroyant's charge of cowardice against me might just have some merit.
                        Naw, it simply reveals his heart. Remember, discretion is the better part of valor!
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                          Foudroyant's charge of cowardice against me might just have some merit. I kind of shy away from being pushed into a position where I might have to hand him into his own desire.

                          keep hidin'

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            How in the WORLD do you get "join him in his heresy" from me being amused at your immaturity?
                            I am saying he is wrong and you attack me.

                            Dumb Boy

                            I'm frightened but I am the one issuing the challenge!

                            Like said....Dumb Boy!!!!!!!!!!

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                            • #59
                              Discretion .... discretion ....

                              Are you sure that's a word?
                              sigpic1 Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
                                I am saying he is wrong and you attack me.
                                My "attacking" you, if you are so insecure you call it that, had NOTHING to do with what Tab was saying --- I hadn't even READ any of his posts.

                                Dumb Boy
                                Mossy can change your name if you'd like to use that, Foud!

                                I'm frightened
                                It goes to your incredible insecurity.

                                but I am the one issuing the challenge!

                                Like said....Dumb Boy!!!!!!!!!!
                                Yeah, everybody is scared to death of you, Foud. You're like a two year old pitching a hissy, thinking he is in charge.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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