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Do Reverends Al and Jesse actually Rev?

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    Do Reverends Al and Jesse actually Rev?

    I mean, seriously, they (Reverends Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson) are always referred to as "reverend", but do they pastor, preach, minister?

    I honestly don't know, which is why I'm asking!
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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    They preach the social gospel...

    In all seriousness, good question, I don't know.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    • #3
      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
      They preach the social gospel...
      Yeah, kinda, but it's more about liberation theology, I think.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        minister
        I think they minister.....to those in certain "causes".

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          Oh my goodness -- there's the grumpy Rev Jackson now, hogging the spotlight at Ferguson, Mo.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Both are Baptist but I can't find any indication they presently serve or that Jackson ever did.
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            • #7
              As far as I know, neither one is an accredited minister. They seem to be only ministers of politics.
              "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

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                Originally posted by Jesse View Post
                As far as I know, neither one is an accredited minister. They seem to be only ministers of politics.
                If they're Baptist, the term would not be "accredited", it would be "ordained". And I think they both are. Sharpton was actually ordained as a Pentecostal Minister when he was 9 years old (yes, nine) then became a Baptist in the late 80's.

                Jackson was ordained in 1968, but I don't know much about that.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  If they're Baptist, the term would not be "accredited", it would be "ordained". And I think they both are. Sharpton was actually ordained as a Pentecostal Minister when he was 9 years old (yes, nine) then became a Baptist in the late 80's.

                  Jackson was ordained in 1968, but I don't know much about that.
                  Ah ok, sorry about that. I thought it would have been the same thing. Seems "ordained" doesn't mean very much if you can get it at 9. I never really considered them reverends or ministers of any type. I never see them preaching the Gospel.
                  "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jesse View Post
                    Ah ok, sorry about that. I thought it would have been the same thing. Seems "ordained" doesn't mean very much if you can get it at 9.
                    The Pentecostal Church can be a tad different.

                    I never really considered them reverends or ministers of any type. I never see them preaching the Gospel.
                    That's what I'm asking interested in -- do they preach or pastor? So far, doesn't seem like it.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      The Pentecostal Church can be a tad different.



                      That's what I'm asking interested in -- do they preach or pastor? So far, doesn't seem like it.
                      I have seen Sharpton on church podiums preaching. But it was never the Word of God. Usually some politician was always in the front pew.
                      "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

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                      • #12
                        What then is a reverend? What influenced does a reverend have in a society? What kind of minister is Reverend Jesse Jackson? A reverend is a man of God ordained by Theological Seminary such as the Seminary Jesse Jackson attended in Chicago. And though Jesse Jackson dropped from the Seminary to pursue his dreams for his nation, he was bestowed the Reverend title by the Seminary due to his achievement for the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. The Reverend Jesse Jackson influenced the people around him with his faith and words of God not in a church congregation but mostly on rallies, demonstration and later Democratic addresses and convention. The reverend in Jesse Jackson became a title equivalent to honorable.
                        http://jessejackson.net/jesse-jackso...-is-a-reverend

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
                          A reverend is a man of God ordained by Theological Seminary such as the Seminary Jesse Jackson attended in Chicago.
                          Seminaries don't ordain preachers -- that's a function of the Church.

                          he was bestowed the Reverend title by the Seminary due to his achievement for the Southern Christian Leadership Conference.
                          You're confusing an honorary seminary degree with ordination.
                          Last edited by Cow Poke; 08-15-2014, 11:50 PM.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            I'm not confusing it. I simply cited why other people feel he is due this title. I don't.

                            He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name. (Psalm 111:9, KJV)
                            Last edited by foudroyant; 08-15-2014, 11:59 PM.

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                              Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
                              I'm not confusing it. I simply cited why other people feel he is due this title. I don't.
                              You provided inaccurate information, and apparently were not aware of the difference.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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