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The Faustian Bargain

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  • KingsGambit
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    Also, it is harder to repent when one has anything material they possibly want. Even Solomon fell.

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  • Teallaura
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    Originally posted by Obsidian View Post
    I think one point of the play was that Faust hadn't really sold his soul for good, but mistakenly thought he had, and therefore believed he was unsavable. I do think it is possible for the saved to engage in witchcraft, which is effectively the same thing as selling your soul.

    1 Samuel 28
    15 And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do. . . . 19 Moreover the Lord will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines: and to morrow shalt thou and thy sons be with me: the Lord also shall deliver the host of Israel into the hand of the Philistines.

    Acts 19
    18 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds. 19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. 20 So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.
    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I think this is correct. Perhaps the devil's goal was to convince him of this to reduce the likelihood of his salvation.

    That's a good point, guys. Thanks.

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  • KingsGambit
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    Originally posted by Obsidian View Post
    I think one point of the play was that Faust hadn't really sold his soul for good, but mistakenly thought he had, and therefore believed he was unsavable.
    I think this is correct. Perhaps the devil's goal was to convince him of this to reduce the likelihood of his salvation.

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  • Sparko
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    Romans 9:1 I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying, my conscience confirms it through the Holy Spirit— 2 I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race, 4 the people of Israel.

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  • Obsidian
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    I think one point of the play was that Faust hadn't really sold his soul for good, but mistakenly thought he had, and therefore believed he was unsavable. I do think it is possible for the saved to engage in witchcraft, which is effectively the same thing as selling your soul.

    1 Samuel 28
    15 And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do. . . . 19 Moreover the Lord will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines: and to morrow shalt thou and thy sons be with me: the Lord also shall deliver the host of Israel into the hand of the Philistines.

    Acts 19
    18 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds. 19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. 20 So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.

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  • Teallaura
    started a topic The Faustian Bargain

    The Faustian Bargain

    In my opinion, it's a ridiculous proposal. First off, what price could be worth your soul? Second, and more to the point, why would a self respecting demon buy a soul that already belongs to Hell? The very instant one is willing to sell one's soul it is no longer of any value since the truly saved would never be willing and if they were they couldn't arguably still be saved. (Personally, I don't think Jesus is so weak that this scenario could even play out but for the sake of argument...)

    Thoughts?

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