The Church's support of immoral Donald Trump broke my heart. My church felt like home, and now I feel homeless.
I'm sad that all of this happened. I wish that the Church would leave Trump.
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Christians and Trump--two perspectives
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIs this an indication that you are no longer Christian?
Is following Trump an indication that you are no longer Christian?
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostIf you are now an infidel, why does your "Faith" still say "Christian"?
Did Trump tell you to call me an infidel? You become like the one you follow..
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Originally posted by Timothy View PostOh well. If Christians support Trump's corruption, that's their own problem. I'm no longer associated with that.
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Originally posted by hedrick View PostYes. Here’s the most detailed treatment of his faith that I’ve seen. https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/16/polit...ney/index.html
The cathedral is part of the Episcopal Church, the American branch of Anglicanism. Considered the "church of the establishment" for much of American history -- 11 US presidents have been Episcopalian -- the church of late has been known as a forerunner of progressive theology.
A fancy way of saying that the apostasy is well under way.
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Originally posted by Timothy View PostI like to argue, I am not hostile.
If you think you made a mistake supporting Trump, just say so.
Hillary is not POTUS.
SCOTUS is not Hillary's.
God is on His Throne.
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Originally posted by hedrick View PostYes. Here’s the most detailed treatment of his faith that I’ve seen. https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/16/polit...ney/index.html
But I don't know that he didn't, and it no longer matters to me relative to his run for the presidency. He has less than a snowball's chance in the hot place, I think.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThis kinda reminds me of the whole "Did Buttigieg actually, himself, claim to be a practicing Christian"?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNo, that's AN alternative.
If enough of us who were disgusted with Hillary (but not thrilled about Trump) simply didn't vote, Hillary would be POTUS and SCOTUS would be Hillary's. Have you seen how crazy far loony the left has become?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAre you always this argumentative? I voted for Trump knowing HILLARY was very much corrupt, and pro abortion and pro GLBXTSJRL.... At the time, I had no idea what a jackass Trump was.
How bout dialing down the hostility just a tad, eh?
That was me asking you.
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Originally posted by TimothyConfusing.
You might be able to blame me for Hillary's position on abortion IF I had supported Hillary. I didn't.
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Originally posted by Timothy View PostYou voted for Trump knowing he is corrupt.
How bout dialing down the hostility just a tad, eh?
As I said, not my problem.
Would it be fair for me to accuse you of supporting the murder of babies because you support Hillary?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHow, exactly, do I (for example) support Trump's corruption?
Would it be fair for me to accuse you of supporting the murder of babies because you support Hillary?
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