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  • I can see that I will not get fair treatment here.

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    • I can see that I will not get fair treatment here.

      I have been literally accused of murder, and everyone is great with that.
      When I complain about being accused of murder, I get scolded for that.

      You all have a great time on judgment day.

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      • Originally posted by Timothy View Post
        I put the reference in the post. This is really unfair.
        I apologize. I should have used the word context instead of reference. My error.


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        • Originally posted by Timothy View Post
          Seriously? You are really standing behind your accusation that I approve of child murder?
          That is really too much.
          Reading comprehension not your thing, is it? Your logic, applied to you, leads to exactly that conclusion. If it is unfair, the problem is in your logic.
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          • Originally posted by Adrift View Post
            You know, a set of parenthesis can go a long way so you don't have to provide notation.
            And my twin brudder from another mudder would be the disappoint.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • Originally posted by Timothy View Post
              I can see that I will not get fair treatment here.

              I have been literally accused of murder, and everyone is great with that.
              When I complain about being accused of murder, I get scolded for that.

              You all have a great time on judgment day.
              Translation: it's okay when I unjustly accuse others of defying God and not being Christian but it's sooo unfair when others won't admit guilt they don't actually bear and poor little martyr me gets accused of supporting abortion on THE EXACT SAME LOGIC I use to condemn others.



              You might wanna get that 4x4 out of your eye before Judgement.
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              "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

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              • Originally posted by Timothy View Post
                Here you go.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opini...ica/ar-AAHGsQ3
                He has pressured a foreign leader to interfere in the 2020 American presidential election.


                He urged a foreign country to intervene in the 2016 presidential election.

                He divulged classified information to foreign officials.

                He publicly undermined American intelligence agents while standing next to a hostile foreign autocrat.

                He hired a national security adviser who he knew had secretly worked as a foreign lobbyist.

                He encourages foreign leaders to enrich him and his family by staying at his hotels.

                He genuflects to murderous dictators.

                He has alienated America’s closest allies.

                He lied to the American people about his company’s business dealings in Russia.

                He tells new lies virtually every week — about the economy, voter fraud, even the weather.

                He spends hours on end watching television and days on end staying at resorts.

                He often declines to read briefing books or perform other basic functions of a president’s job.

                He has aides, as well as members of his own party in Congress, who mock him behind his back as unfit for office.

                He has repeatedly denigrated a deceased United States senator who was a war hero.

                He insulted a Gold Star family — the survivors of American troops killed in action.

                He described a former first lady, not long after she died, as “nasty.”

                He described white supremacists as “some very fine people.”

                He told four women of color, all citizens and members of Congress, to “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came.”

                He made a joke about Pocahontas during a ceremony honoring Native American World War II veterans.

                He launched his political career by falsely claiming that the first black president was not really American.

                He launched his presidential campaign by describing Mexicans as “rapists.”

                He has described women, variously, as “a dog,” “a pig” and “horseface,” as well as “bleeding badly from a facelift” and having “blood coming out of her wherever.”

                He has been accused of sexual assault or misconduct by multiple women.

                He enthusiastically campaigned for a Senate candidate who was accused of molesting multiple teenage girls.

                He waved around his arms, while giving a speech, to ridicule a physically disabled person.

                He has encouraged his supporters to commit violence against his political opponents.

                He has called for his opponents and critics to be investigated and jailed.

                He uses a phrase popular with dictators — “the enemy of the people” — to describe journalists.

                He attempts to undermine any independent source of information that he does not like, including judges, scientists, journalists, election officials, the F.B.I., the C.I.A., the Congressional Budget Office and the National Weather Service.

                He has tried to harass the chairman of the Federal Reserve into lowering interest rates.

                He said that a judge could not be objective because of his Mexican heritage.

                He obstructed justice by trying to influence an investigation into his presidential campaign.

                He violated federal law by directing his lawyer to pay $280,000 in hush money to cover up two apparent extramarital affairs.

                He made his fortune partly through wide-scale financial fraud.

                He has refused to release his tax returns.

                He falsely accused his predecessor of wiretapping him.

                He claimed that federal law-enforcement agents and prosecutors regularly fabricated evidence, thereby damaging the credibility of criminal investigations across the country.

                He has ordered children to be physically separated from their parents.

                He has suggested that America is no different from or better than Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

                He has called America a “hellhole.”

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opini...ica/ar-AAHGsQ3
                Congratulations. You just provided a list that makes Trump's ability to exaggerate and misrepresent look like the work of a rank amateur.

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                  Translation: it's okay when I unjustly accuse others of defying God and not being Christian but it's sooo unfair when others won't admit guilt they don't actually bear and poor little martyr me gets accused of supporting abortion on THE EXACT SAME LOGIC I use to condemn others.



                  You might wanna get that 4x4 out of your eye before Judgement.
                  You accused me of approving of child murder!!!!

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                  • Originally posted by Timothy View Post
                    You accused me of approving of child murder!!!!
                    By your own logic, you do! It's simple to prove me wrong -admit how unfair you were to others - but you won't.

                    Point stands as long as you make it stand.
                    "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot

                    "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

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                    • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                      By your own logic, you do! It's simple to prove me wrong -admit how unfair you were to others - but you won't.

                      Point stands as long as you make it stand.
                      Whatever. We both know that I don't approve of murdering children. And we both know that you refuse to apologize, and what will happen as a result of that.

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                      • Timothy,

                        Fair and public warning - one more PM from you and I will take the whole thing - including pm's - to the Padded Room to allow others to judge between us.

                        -Teallaura
                        "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot

                        "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

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                        • Originally posted by Timothy View Post
                          Whatever. We both know that I don't approve of murdering children. And we both know that you refuse to apologize, and what will happen as a result of that.
                          You aren't entitled to an apology, little devil, until you apologize yourself.

                          Do you want those pm's made public? They don't violate Decorum - but they are nothing you should be proud of.
                          "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot

                          "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

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                          • Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                            Hmm. No, I'm sorry. I'm totally not familiar with that hat. I've never seen anyone wear one where I live at least (and I live in Trump country).

                            Doesn't appear much different from these hats either,





                            I had a co worker at the post office who used to deliver in that hat before they made him stop. (Incidentally, he also personally threatened me with gun violence).

                            edit: Never mind, he meant the 2020 hats, not the 2016 hats.
                            Last edited by KingsGambit; 09-23-2019, 03:27 PM.
                            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                            • Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                              I had a co worker at the post office who used to deliver in that hat before they made him stop. (Incidentally, he also personally threatened me with gun violence).
                              Which one of the hats?
                              "What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer

                              "... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen

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                              • Timothy, if Christians can't vote for immoral politicians, then you must never vote. Is that correct?

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