Christians and Trump--two perspectives

[Timothy]

It's not a quibble, champ. Insurrectionists don't wander around, staying respectfully inside the guide ropes, taking selfies once they get inside. I understand you're attempting to manufacture outrage, here, but it looks faintly ridiculous.

Yeah, that isn't what happened. Nice try though. I don't need to manufacture outrage. January 6th happened, and one side wants to minimize what happened. Whatever. Believe whatever you want. The facts don't care about your feelings, and all that. Have a nice day.

[Timothy]

There simply was no insurrection, hence, no insurrectionists.

This horse has been beaten so badly and for so long that pretty much all that remains is his shattered bones.

You can have the last word.

Whatever. Take another look, if you want to see.

[One Bad Pig]

Why the word quibble? insurrectionists are also necessarily rioters. Rioters who storm the capital building are also insurrectionists. You say tomato, I say tomato.

It's not a quibble, champ. Insurrectionists don't wander around, staying respectfully inside the guide ropes, taking selfies once they get inside. I understand you're attempting to manufacture outrage, here, but it looks faintly ridiculous.

[Cow Poke]

Why the word quibble? insurrectionists are also necessarily rioters. Rioters who storm the capital building are also insurrectionists. You say tomato, I say tomato.

There simply was no insurrection, hence, no insurrectionists.

This horse has been beaten so badly and for so long that pretty much all that remains is his shattered bones.

You can have the last word.

[Timothy]

rioters

Why the word quibble? insurrectionists are also necessarily rioters. Rioters who storm the capital building are also insurrectionists. You say tomato, I say tomato.

[Cow Poke]

He is still alive.

Yeah, I know.

The question was "Do you believe that it is immoral to hang Mike Pence?"

Absolutely, but nobody did that.

The insurrectionists

rioters

never made to Mike Pence, but I believe the question is still open.

meh

[Timothy]

I missed that - I was under the impression he was still alive!

He is still alive. The question was "Do you believe that it is immoral to hang Mike Pence?" The insurrectionists never made to Mike Pence, but I believe the question is still open.

[Cow Poke]

Thanks

You bet!

No,it isn't.

Yes, it is.

People died as a result of the insurrection and it is misleading to say that it wasn't so bad.

A) It wasn't an insurrection - it was a riot.
2) I never said it "wasn't so bad" - it was horrendous.
c) It is misleading to imply that people who died of natural causes (heart attack, etc) died "as a result of the insurrection riot". Even factcheck.org agrees.
iv) The ONLY person who died that day as a direct result of the riot was an unarmed female Air Force verteran.

This again? Yes, I believe that abortion is immoral.

And the Democrats have opted to make that their #1 Campaign issue, along with their very enthusiastic support for LGBQT+++ and other issues.

I also believe that more than one thing can be immoral at the same time. What does abortion have to do with the insurrection on January 6th?

Ah, Timothy --- you disappoint me --- there is nothing in my post that implies that abortion has anything to do with the riot.
It DOES, however, have to do with the entire focus of the Democratic Party in the upcoming election.

Do you think that abortion makes insurrection right?

wow

Do you believe that it is immoral to hang Mike Pence?

I missed that - I was under the impression he was still alive!

As Christians we have to weigh all of the issues, not just one.

So, it appears you are hyper-focused on this alleged "insurrection", and ignoring the overall platform of the Democratic Party.

Then we have to do the best we can.

I try.

[One Bad Pig]

Five people died, Beverly

Non sequitur. That has nothing to do with improperly classifying it as an insurrection.

And, as Cow Poke pointed out, only one person died as a direct consequence of the riot, and she was killed by a trigger-happy desk jockey who was in no way in imminent danger.

[Timothy]

So good so far....

Thanks

It's misleading.

No,it isn't. People died as a result of the insurrection and it is misleading to say that it wasn't so bad.

Do you believe abortion is immoral?

This again? Yes, I believe that abortion is immoral. I also believe that more than one thing can be immoral at the same time. What does abortion have to do with the insurrection on January 6th? Do you think that abortion makes insurrection right? Do you believe that it is immoral to hang Mike Pence? As Christians we have to weigh all of the issues, not just one. Then we have to do the best we can.

[Cow Poke]

My comments were actually to another poster who claimed that the insurrection wasn't so bad. I agree with you that it was a riot (and not at all in a good way) and everybody who broke the law that day should be prosecuted.

So good so far....

I didn't distort any facts. It was a riot and people actually died.

It's misleading.

Additionally, I disagree with Trump when said that the (his word) "hostages" should be pardoned. And I will do what I can to make sure Trump is unable to pardon the insurrectionists. My conscience is clear, I will do the right thing.

Do you believe abortion is immoral?

[Timothy]

No, sir - it was a riot, and everybody who broke the law that day should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
But facts should not be distorted or misrepresented.



There's another poster here who seems to think he's always being gaslighted.

My comments were actually to another poster who claimed that the insurrection wasn't so bad. I agree with you that it was a riot (and not at all in a good way) and everybody who broke the law that day should be prosecuted. I didn't distort any facts. It was a riot and people actually died. Additionally, I disagree with Trump when said that the (his word) "hostages" should be pardoned. And I will do what I can to make sure Trump is unable to pardon the insurrectionists. My conscience is clear, I will do the right thing.

[Cow Poke]

Oh, my bad.

Then its all okay.

No, sir - it was a riot, and everybody who broke the law that day should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
But facts should not be distorted or misrepresented.

Don't gaslight me.

There's another poster here who seems to think he's always being gaslighted.

[Timothy]

Only ONE person died as a direct result of the riot, Timothy, and that was an unarmed female Air Force veteran shot by a nervous Capitol Police Officer.
The Democrats actually outright lied about a Capitol Police Officer being bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher, and even after it was known this was false, they still used it to raise money and to prosecute the impeachment.

Oh, my bad. Then its all okay. Don't gaslight me.

[Cow Poke]

Five people died, Beverly

Only ONE person died as a direct result of the riot, Timothy, and that was an unarmed female Air Force veteran shot by a nervous Capitol Police Officer.
The Democrats actually outright lied about a Capitol Police Officer being bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher, and even after it was known this was false, they still used it to raise money and to prosecute the impeachment.