Christians and Trump--two perspectives

[Cow Poke]

I agree with you. I'll be glad when both have taken their final bows and exited the stage.

I'd like to think whoever comes after Trump-Biden will be better. However, in the words of the great philosopher Bill Cosby: "Never tempt worse."

Meanwhile, the sun still comes up in the morning, the birds still sing, my grandchildren still delight me, I love breakfasts with my wife (especially while watching the sunrise), and I don't even have the slightest contempt for those who are absolutely obsessed with Trump.

[Thoughtful Monk]

I see Trump as the useful idiot - the ass God used to speak to Balaam - the sinful slimy firefighter who shows up to put out the fire in my house....

Regardless of who sits in the White House (when Biden can remember where he is, and that Kamala is NOT the President) God is still on His Throne.

I don't get all bitter and hate-filled and absolutely obsessed with either Biden or Trump to where either of them lives rent-free in my head.

It won't be long before both Trump and Biden are in the grave, and God will still be on His Throne.

I agree with you. I'll be glad when both have taken their final bows and exited the stage.

I'd like to think whoever comes after Trump-Biden will be better. However, in the words of the great philosopher Bill Cosby: "Never tempt worse."

[Cow Poke]

I've had a couple days to think about this more. While I agree that Christians should be involved in the political process, I'm getting more convinced that the Kingdom of God will not be voted in. Maybe we can get a slightly better world if the correct politician is elected. None of them are Christ. The Kingdom of God will only arrive when Christ returns to rule and reign.

Just watching the prolife movement for the past couple years has been instructive. They did get a good deed done by getting Roe v Wade repealed. However, I also see, that pro-life isn't suddenly the view of the people. I think the pro-life movement needs to start putting more effort into changing hearts and minds now. I won't abandon the political process. I just think it is reaching a point where increasing energy into it will produce less and less results. It the old saying, "You can't legislate morality."

Random thought: I think a few Christian supporters of Trump are guilty of idolatry. From my Christian perspective, he's probably the better choice than Biden. Unfortunately, I also think choosing between Trump and Biden is like being asked "do you wish to be executed by hanging or firing squad?"

I see Trump as the useful idiot - the ass God used to speak to Balaam - the sinful slimy firefighter who shows up to put out the fire in my house....

Regardless of who sits in the White House (when Biden can remember where he is, and that Kamala is NOT the President) God is still on His Throne.

I don't get all bitter and hate-filled and absolutely obsessed with either Biden or Trump to where either of them lives rent-free in my head.

It won't be long before both Trump and Biden are in the grave, and God will still be on His Throne.

[Thoughtful Monk]

I've had a couple days to think about this more. While I agree that Christians should be involved in the political process, I'm getting more convinced that the Kingdom of God will not be voted in. Maybe we can get a slightly better world if the correct politician is elected. None of them are Christ. The Kingdom of God will only arrive when Christ returns to rule and reign.

Just watching the prolife movement for the past couple years has been instructive. They did get a good deed done by getting Roe v Wade repealed. However, I also see, that pro-life isn't suddenly the view of the people. I think the pro-life movement needs to start putting more effort into changing hearts and minds now. I won't abandon the political process. I just think it is reaching a point where increasing energy into it will produce less and less results. It the old saying, "You can't legislate morality."

Random thought: I think a few Christian supporters of Trump are guilty of idolatry. From my Christian perspective, he's probably the better choice than Biden. Unfortunately, I also think choosing between Trump and Biden is like being asked "do you wish to be executed by hanging or firing squad?"

[Cow Poke]

Even more accurate since both parties are full of crap.

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[Cerebrum123]

How bout the unipotty? Give it a New England flair.

Even more accurate since both parties are full of crap.

[Cow Poke]

I've usually heard of it being called the uniparty, but that also works.

How bout the unipotty? Give it a New England flair.

[Cerebrum123]

I have a friend who calls them the monoparty.

I've usually heard of it being called the uniparty, but that also works.

[Thoughtful Monk]

So it comes down to, in my opinion, work [or vote] like it depends on you, but pray like it depends on God.

(with far more emphasis on the latter)

I confess I am checking out of the political party. I've come to the conclusion that both are more drawn to maintaining their power than doing good for their city, county, state, or USA. Now if I could just pray more.

[Thoughtful Monk]

I used to believe that, but not anymore. They are just two puppets controlled by the same person. They might appear to fight against each other, but the same force drives them both.

I have a friend who calls them the monoparty.

[Timothy]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56004916

[Timothy]

It's not a quibble, champ. Insurrectionists don't wander around, staying respectfully inside the guide ropes, taking selfies once they get inside. I understand you're attempting to manufacture outrage, here, but it looks faintly ridiculous.

Yeah, that isn't what happened. Nice try though. I don't need to manufacture outrage. January 6th happened, and one side wants to minimize what happened. Whatever. Believe whatever you want. The facts don't care about your feelings, and all that. Have a nice day.

[Timothy]

There simply was no insurrection, hence, no insurrectionists.

This horse has been beaten so badly and for so long that pretty much all that remains is his shattered bones.

You can have the last word.

Whatever. Take another look, if you want to see.

[One Bad Pig]

Why the word quibble? insurrectionists are also necessarily rioters. Rioters who storm the capital building are also insurrectionists. You say tomato, I say tomato.

It's not a quibble, champ. Insurrectionists don't wander around, staying respectfully inside the guide ropes, taking selfies once they get inside. I understand you're attempting to manufacture outrage, here, but it looks faintly ridiculous.

[Cow Poke]

Why the word quibble? insurrectionists are also necessarily rioters. Rioters who storm the capital building are also insurrectionists. You say tomato, I say tomato.

There simply was no insurrection, hence, no insurrectionists.

This horse has been beaten so badly and for so long that pretty much all that remains is his shattered bones.

You can have the last word.