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  • No one is righteous?

    Romans 3:10: There is no one righteous, not even one.

    Luke 1:6: And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

    Is this a contradiction?

    Thanks.

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    No, there is no contradiction. It depends on what you mean as righteous. If you mean in the sense that they never sinned then no that definition does not work. If you mean righteous in terms of general principle by seeking to please God then yes righteous in the sense is the meaning.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
      Romans 3:10: There is no one righteous, not even one.
      I would say this refers to the wicked heart that we all have (Jer. 17:9).

      Luke 1:6: And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
      And this is being righteous with the righteousness of God:

      "... not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith..." (Php 3:9)

      So as far as ourselves, we are evil (Luke 11:13), yet as far as we have Christ's righteousness, we can be called righteous. "Simul justus et peccator", simultaneously just and a sinner.

      Blessings,
      Lee
      "What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)

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      • #4
        Romans 3:10, quite obviously, is not written in a vacuum. So, let's look at the context.

        Paul, in his letter to the Romans, is using his "let's figure this out" style of argument, and in chapter 3, beginning at verse 9, he begins quoting from Psalms 14:1-3; 5:9, 140:3, 10:7 and 36:1, and from Isaiah 59:7-8.

        He's using scripture (OT, of course) to underscore the concept of the universal depravity of man.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
          Romans 3:10: There is no one righteous, not even one.

          Luke 1:6: And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

          Is this a contradiction?

          Thanks.
          When you take the verses out of context like this (especially Romans 3:10) then it can appear to be contradictory. Here's more context from Romans 3:

          “None is righteous, no, not one;
          no one understands;
          no one seeks for God.
          All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;
          no one does good,
          not even one.”

          It's clear that the two passages in Luke and Romans are talking about those who do God's will, and those who don't. Those who don't can never achieve righteousness, and those who do are righteous before God.

          A few verses later in Romans 3, it says,

          But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it—the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe.

          This aligns with the verse in Luke.
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
            Romans 3:10: There is no one righteous, not even one.

            Luke 1:6: And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

            Is this a contradiction?

            Thanks.
            Romans 3:10 is part of a catena drawn from the Psalms (as CP noted) to underscore a point. The citation (as often happens with citations) doesn't change the tense used in the original. Being a catena, it is of some use to check original context. Doing that reveals that "none righteous" is circumscribed even in the Psalms. Then we look at Romans 3 and find that Paul is saying that there are "none righteous" within a specified area - Both Jew and Greek are under the power of sin, and that being the case, there are none righteous on their own merits. In short, he is saying that righteousness apart from God doesn't happen. Luke 1:6 shows that John's parents are not apart from God, and they are therefore not within the boundaries declared by Paul in Romans 3 ... to them, righteousness is possible.
            1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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            Scripture before Tradition:
            but that won't prevent others from
            taking it upon themselves to deprive you
            of the right to call yourself Christian.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
              Romans 3:10 [NIV]: There is no one righteous, not even one.

              Luke 1:6 [KJV]: And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

              Is this a contradiction?

              Thanks.
              Apart from the Last Adam, Jesus the Christ, no human being can claim absolute moral righteousness or perfection. All have sinned and are destitute of the glory of God (Rom. 3.23). Collectively, this is the condition in which Jews and Gentiles find themselves.

              Nevertheless, throughout both the Old and New Testament scriptures it is evident that some are demarcated as righteous (the few) and others as unrighteous (the many). From the vantage point of personal righteousness, even those united to Christ in the new-covenant era vary in respect of their degree of Christ-likeness, maturity, or holiness. In this sense, some of the righteous are more righteous than others. Likewise, amongst the unrighteous some persons are further along in their devilish schemes than others.
              For Neo-Remonstration (Arminian/Remonstrant ruminations): <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>

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