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New Church Statue: "Jesus the Homeless"
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Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo View Post*smack forehead*
No, the deep seated sense of hospitality among his countrymen (especially his disciples, and wealthy patrons like Joanna - not to mention Jesus' skill as a tekton) would ensure that Jesus' wasn't living as a vagabond. It's a good thing that you want to take care of the poor, but Jesus Himself wasn't "essentially homeless".
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostWhy would he need a blanket if he has Crucifixion wounds? Wouldn't the scars imply a post resurrection body? Meaning He wouldn't need a home...
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Why would he need a blanket if he has Crucifixion wounds? Wouldn't the scars imply a post resurrection body? Meaning He wouldn't need a home...
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Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo View PostBut not to this sentiment, which I was addressing:
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Most homeless people in this country are not in that position because of their great love for God.
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But not to this sentiment, which I was addressing:
"We believe that that's the kind of life Jesus had," Buck says. "He was, in essence, a homeless person."
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Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo View Post*smack forehead*
No, the deep seated sense of hospitality among his countrymen (especially his disciples, and wealthy patrons like Joanna - not to mention Jesus' skill as a tekton) would ensure that Jesus' wasn't living as a vagabond. It's a good thing that you want to take care of the poor, but Jesus Himself wasn't "essentially homeless".
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*smack forehead*
No, the deep seated sense of hospitality among his countrymen (especially his disciples, and wealthy patrons like Joanna - not to mention Jesus' skill as a tekton) would ensure that Jesus' wasn't living as a vagabond. It's a good thing that you want to take care of the poor, but Jesus Himself wasn't "essentially homeless".
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There is a very direct connection to Matthew 25 that should be pondered by those whose immediate reaction is one of a defensive negativity. If the statue at least gets some to ponder that, it will have done its job.
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New Church Statue: "Jesus the Homeless"
http://www.npr.org/2014/04/13/302019...ntent=04132014
A new religious statue in the town of Davidson, N.C., is unlike anything you might see in church.
The statue depicts Jesus as a vagrant sleeping on a park bench. St. Alban's Episcopal Church installed the homeless Jesus statue on its property in the middle of an upscale neighborhood filled with well-kept townhomes.
Jesus is huddled under a blanket with his face and hands obscured; only the crucifixion wounds on his uncovered feet give him away.
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The bronze statue was purchased for $22,000 as a memorial for a parishioner, Kate McIntyre, who had loved public art. The rector of this liberal, inclusive church is Rev. David Buck, a 65-year-old Baptist-turned-Episcopalian who seems not at all averse to the controversy, the double-takes and the discussion the statue has provoked.
"It gives authenticity to our church," he says. "This is a relatively affluent church, to be honest, and we need to be reminded ourselves that our faith expresses itself in active concern for the marginalized of society."
The sculpture is intended as a visual translation of the passage in the Book of Matthew, in which Jesus tells his disciples, "as you did it to one of the least of my brothers, you did it to me." Moreover, Buck says, it's a good Bible lesson for those used to seeing Jesus depicted in traditional religious art as the Christ of glory, enthroned in finery.
"We believe that that's the kind of life Jesus had," Buck says. "He was, in essence, a homeless person."
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