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Norman Geisler's new target - Craig Blomberg
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Check out AP's blog post here: http://deeperwaters.wordpress.com/20...raig-blomberg/
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Originally posted by Dee Dee Warren View PostGeisler is a liar and enabler of liars. Zero respect.
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It has been a long time since i read the stuff on it. At the time I did, but I would read it with some more skepticism this time for more personal motives. His theological points for the resurrection were very good.
He probably has very good points in these recent scuffles -- he just doesn't have the standing to bring them, his own house is very dirty.
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Originally posted by Dee Dee Warren View PostGeisler is a liar and enabler of liars. Zero respect.
Review at Amazon.com of The Battle for the Resurrection Paperback
by Norman L. Geisler:
21 people found the following review helpful
Bad Book, Worse Author
By E. Martin on February 11, 2001
If you ever need a case of mean-spirited, ignorant, inquisitorial mentality of some Evangelical pseudo-intellectuals just take a gander at this screed.
New Testament scholar Murray J. Harris wrote a stirring defense of the historicity of the bodily resurrection of Jesus in his book EASTER IN DURHAM.
For his trouble he was savaged by this know-nothing in this book for not teaching a *physical* resurrection.
Harris replied with FROM GRAVE TO GLORY, an exhaustive study of the doctrine of the resurrection which remains a standard of evangelical scholarship. Along the way he answered Geisler's repeated misrepresentations and falsehoods and showed his laughable ignorance of Greek.
Not to be detered, Geisler mobilized his fellow Torquemadas (self-appointed "cult watchers") to secure a statement of condemnation from the Evangelical Free Church and badgered Harris into retirement.
Nice Work guys!
Geisler is the worst representative of a resurgent Protestant scholasticism, he pretends to be a apologist (a "defender") but he's really a polemicist (a "war-monger") and a publicity hungry little parasite, seeking to build up his notoriety on the careers and reputations he attacks. Reading makes me *thankful* for the Enlightenment. With regard to this and the rest of his published corpus, I say with David Hume "commend them all to the flames."Last edited by John Reece; 04-12-2014, 02:01 PM.
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Originally posted by RumTumTugger View PostI agree
if I I understand it Giesler is supporting a proven liar(Caner). but attacking people who he disagrees with on a non essentials. He is not showing the Love of Christ that he should.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostI think it's clear that Geisler effectively views that the ICBI Statements on inerrancy (or his understanding of them) as at least equivalent to Scripture in authority.
Protestants and their Tradition
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Originally posted by Dee Dee Warren View PostOh please let's open the Caner can.... Geisler's self-inflicted mortal blow
if I I understand it Giesler is supporting a proven liar(Caner). but attacking people who he disagrees with on a non essentials. He is not showing the Love of Christ that he should.
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Oh please let's open the Caner can.... Geisler's self-inflicted mortal blow
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A footnote in Blomberg's book (that is too long for me to copy here) demonstrates a number of outright falsehoods in one particular written attack from Geisler (without even opening the Ergun Caner can of worms). This is clearly not sound Christian behavior.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostI think it's clear that Geisler effectively views that the ICBI Statements on inerrancy (or his understanding of them) as at least equivalent to Scripture in authority.
Protestants and their Tradition
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