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    Our little church in Alaska (about 100 in the winter including children) holds communion on the first Sunday of the month. That being only a few days away, I got to wondering from where the current (US Protestant) form of communion came from. Every church I been to, no matter the denomination, practices communion the same way * - pass around a (very) tray of small crackers and a tray of small juice cups. Each person sits alone and goes through the motions at the appropriate time. I understand the meaning of this and agree with it but it's not very impactful to me. Now our church also has a pot luck on the second Sunday and one time we pushed the partaking of communion back to that Sunday at potluck. Sitting around a table with a smaller group of fellow believers sharing a loaf of bread and a pitcher of juice, it became more meaningful to me; it brought in the concept of the unity of believers that we have in Christ in a more full way than the usual manner. It was also more in line with how it seemed to be practiced in the early church where some ate too much or drank too much. I wish we'd do it this way more often**.

    So where did this rather sterile form of communion we have now come from? Is it simply trying to get communion in while ending the service on time?

    *I did go to Catholic mass a few times when I was in the Navy. Very different form
    ** not the eating and drinking too much, if that's what you're thinking
    We know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.

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    Originally posted by alaskazimm View Post
    Our little church in Alaska (about 100 in the winter including children) holds communion on the first Sunday of the month. That being only a few days away, I got to wondering from where the current (US Protestant) form of communion came from. Every church I been to, no matter the denomination, practices communion the same way * - pass around a (very) tray of small crackers and a tray of small juice cups. Each person sits alone and goes through the motions at the appropriate time. I understand the meaning of this and agree with it but it's not very impactful to me. Now our church also has a pot luck on the second Sunday and one time we pushed the partaking of communion back to that Sunday at potluck. Sitting around a table with a smaller group of fellow believers sharing a loaf of bread and a pitcher of juice, it became more meaningful to me; it brought in the concept of the unity of believers that we have in Christ in a more full way than the usual manner. It was also more in line with how it seemed to be practiced in the early church where some ate too much or drank too much. I wish we'd do it this way more often**.

    So where did this rather sterile form of communion we have now come from? Is it simply trying to get communion in while ending the service on time?

    *I did go to Catholic mass a few times when I was in the Navy. Very different form
    ** not the eating and drinking too much, if that's what you're thinking
    The Lutheran churches that I attended as a child were more like the Catholics in that pew by pew you went up front to receive communion directly from the pastor.

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      It must not be a very recent development, since the JWs do the same thing (except only the 144,000 can partake).
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      • #4
        Originally posted by alaskazimm View Post
        Now our church also has a pot luck on the second Sunday and one time we pushed the partaking of communion back to that Sunday at potluck. Sitting around a table with a smaller group of fellow believers sharing a loaf of bread and a pitcher of juice, it became more meaningful to me; it brought in the concept of the unity of believers that we have in Christ in a more full way than the usual manner.
        That's the way I always thought it should be done ... provided that the juice is properly aged.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by tabibito View Post

          That's the way I always thought it should be done ... provided that the juice is properly aged.
          I agree it should be properly aged, but that becomes somewhat of a problem in bush Alaska where believers more often than not come out of alcohol dependency and they've seen alcohol destroy many lives.
          We know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            It must not be a very recent development, since the JWs do the same thing (except only the 144,000 can partake).
            I didn't know that about the JWs, though I suppose it's not all that surprising.
            We know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              The Lutheran churches that I attended as a child were more like the Catholics in that pew by pew you went up front to receive communion directly from the pastor.
              I don't remember if I've ever attended a Lutheran service. Or at least not on communion day.
              We know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.

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              • #8
                I vaguely remember a thread a few years ago where I proposed that we do go back to the meal context because it's what the biblical data suggests. An explanation for deviating was the very abuses Paul mentions, but if these were sufficient reasons to do otherwise, Paul certainly could have said so.
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