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  • #16
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

    OK, that --- I had made that statement - that it wasn't anything particularly different about Jesus' blood, except that it was His. It was because it came from the "spotless lamb", not because it was unique blood in and of itself.

    Then somebody very politely told me that, because Jesus had a mother and not a physical father, His blood would be unique. Trying to find out how.
    ECFs held that Logos fashioned a body for himself by drawing on the flesh of the virgin. That scenario would simply mean that his blood was "cloned" from Mary's DNA.
    I think that any scenario on the menu would result in Jesus having perfectly human blood.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by tabibito View Post

      ECFs held that Logos fashioned a body for himself by drawing on the flesh of the virgin. That scenario would simply mean that his blood was "cloned" from Mary's DNA.
      I think that any scenario on the menu would result in Jesus having perfectly human blood.
      Yeah, I'm having a hard time finding a source for anything but.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
        Blood has been significant in every sacrificial system, ever. Human sacrifice is wrong because humans are made in the image of God, not because we are sinful; the latter is an Augustinian concept. All of creation was affected by the Fall, not just humanity. God made provision for the sacrifice of spotless clean animals (pagans also sacrificed pigs) under the Mosaic covenant. Jesus' self-sacrifice on the Cross inaugurated a new covenant (as Hebrews explains). The blood of Jesus is simply a metonym for Jesus' self-sacrifice.
        A small clarification to what I said, thank you, regarding human sacrifice. The rest is pretty much what I said.


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        • #19
          So, when we refer to "kneeling at the Cross", we all recognize it's not the actual wooden structure we are referencing, but to the finished work of Christ thereon.

          I see the blood the same way - it's not the actual physical blood we reference, but the fact that Christ - the perfect Lamb of God - shed it.

          I can't seem to find anything, outside of that one comment by one of my members, that indicates the actual physical blood was any different from the contemporaries of Jesus.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            That sounds more like an argument regarding DNA rather than blood.
            But our blood, particularly white blood cells, has the nuclei which contains the genetic material which indicates the dominant part of our DNA, as well as the plasma, no?
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              So, when we refer to "kneeling at the Cross", we all recognize it's not the actual wooden structure we are referencing, but to the finished work of Christ thereon.

              I see the blood the same way - it's not the actual physical blood we reference, but the fact that Christ - the perfect Lamb of God - shed it.

              I can't seem to find anything, outside of that one comment by one of my members, that indicates the actual physical blood was any different from the contemporaries of Jesus.
              That.


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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                So, when we refer to "kneeling at the Cross", we all recognize it's not the actual wooden structure we are referencing, but to the finished work of Christ thereon.

                I see the blood the same way - it's not the actual physical blood we reference, but the fact that Christ - the perfect Lamb of God - shed it.

                I can't seem to find anything, outside of that one comment by one of my members, that indicates the actual physical blood was any different from the contemporaries of Jesus.
                Since blood can by synonymous with life maybe that's the way it should be understood?

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                • #23
                  @Cowpoke hi, I once read a book called The Chemistry of the Blood by Dr De Haan here is a section about the blood of Jesus:

                  http://bibleone.net/sermon_4.htm

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                    But our blood, particularly white blood cells, has the nuclei which contains the genetic material which indicates the dominant part of our DNA, as well as the plasma, no?
                    White blood cells contain DNA, but red blood cells don't. They don't have a nucleus.




                    According to Catholics, Jesus' blood is made out of red wine.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Esther View Post
                      @Cowpoke hi, I once read a book called The Chemistry of the Blood by Dr De Haan here is a section about the blood of Jesus:

                      http://bibleone.net/sermon_4.htm
                      That is some really bad science. Neither the father nor mother contributes "the blood" to a fetus. Just DNA. From that DNA all cells are created, including blood cells.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                        White blood cells contain DNA, but red blood cells don't. They don't have a nucleus.




                        According to Catholics, Jesus' blood is made out of red wine.
                        Been a long time since I've been in biology classes.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Esther View Post
                          @Cowpoke hi, I once read a book called The Chemistry of the Blood by Dr De Haan here is a section about the blood of Jesus:

                          http://bibleone.net/sermon_4.htm
                          Maybe that's what he was thinking about, not sure.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #28
                            An interesting question and I see one that was well discussed. The whole nature of the incarnate Christ is complicated, and in the end, impossible to understand. For me, this is one of those questions you encounter as a Christian and need to be able to answer. However, I don't see how getting an answer improves anyone's faith.
                            "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                              An interesting question and I see one that was well discussed. The whole nature of the incarnate Christ is complicated, and in the end, impossible to understand. For me, this is one of those questions you encounter as a Christian and need to be able to answer. However, I don't see how getting an answer improves anyone's faith.
                              How much of what we discuss on Tweb actually does improve anyone's faith?

                              It was something that was mentioned to me, and I had never encountered it in 50 years of ministry.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                                How much of what we discuss on Tweb actually does improve anyone's faith?

                                It was something that was mentioned to me, and I had never encountered it in 50 years of ministry.
                                Hopefully, some of what we discuss helps people's faith. Otherwise, Tweb is just a big time waste that should go.
                                "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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