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  • The Milk of the Word of God.


    The Milk of the Word
    The first principles of the oracles of God
    • the principles of the doctrine of Christ
    • the foundation of repentance from dead works
    • of faith toward God
    • of the doctrine of baptisms
    • of laying on of hands
    • of resurrection of the dead
    • of eternal judgment
    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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    It's interesting that the laying on of hands is practically unheard of in churches today, despite the fact that the author of Hebrews thought it to be elementary doctrine. (James mentions the practice as well.)

    In his autobiography, John Wenham mentioned ministering to somebody who was ill, who was aware of this and who saw no reason it should not be tried today... and in that case, the patient recovered.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    • #3
      I don't think the Bible ever proposes that the laying on of hands will heal people. The closest thing would be when Jesus put mud on a man's eyes. The laying on of hands refers to transferring the power of the Holy Spirit.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Obsidian View Post
        I don't think the Bible ever proposes that the laying on of hands will heal people. The closest thing would be when Jesus put mud on a man's eyes. The laying on of hands refers to transferring the power of the Holy Spirit.
        Come to think of it, I was confusing this with the mention of the application of oil in James 5:14.
        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Obsidian View Post
          I don't think the Bible ever proposes that the laying on of hands will heal people. The closest thing would be when Jesus put mud on a man's eyes. The laying on of hands refers to transferring the power of the Holy Spirit.
          Saul's blindness was healed in Acts 9:17-18 through the laying on of Ananias' hands. Irenaeus, in the late 2nd century, attested to people being healed by the laying on of hands. I agree, though, that it is usually done for passing on the gift of the Holy Spirit.
          Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

          Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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          I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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          • #6
            Us Pentecostals lay on hands when asking God for any sort of blessing for an individual, whether a healing, or a baby dedication, or the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
            Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 37818 View Post

              The Milk of the Word
              The first principles of the oracles of God
              • the principles of the doctrine of Christ
              • the foundation of repentance from dead works
              • of faith toward God
              • of the doctrine of baptisms
              • of laying on of hands
              • of resurrection of the dead
              • of eternal judgment
              Believe it or not, I think your list is slightly too long.

              I would go with:
              • the principles of the doctrine of Christ
              • repentance from SIN (to my mind not quite the same as dead works)
              • faith towards God
              • resurrection of the dead
              • eternal judgment


              the others you listed are very important. I just find them a little too open on interpretation to list them as a first principal.
              "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

              "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                Believe it or not, I think your list is slightly too long.

                I would go with:
                • the principles of the doctrine of Christ
                • repentance from SIN (to my mind not quite the same as dead works)
                • faith towards God
                • resurrection of the dead
                • eternal judgment


                the others you listed are very important. I just find them a little too open on interpretation to list them as a first principal.
                The post is basically a restating of Hebrews 6:1-3.
                "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                • #9
                  Dead works doesn't refer to sin, I don't think.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    Saul's blindness was healed in Acts 9:17-18 through the laying on of Ananias' hands. Irenaeus, in the late 2nd century, attested to people being healed by the laying on of hands. I agree, though, that it is usually done for passing on the gift of the Holy Spirit.
                    I forgot about Mark 16:18. While probably not originally part of the gospel, it is another quite early attestation to the laying on of hands for healing.
                    Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                    Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                    I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Obsidian View Post
                      Dead works doesn't refer to sin, I don't think.
                      What does it refer to, then?
                      Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                      Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
                      sigpic
                      I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        What does it refer to, then?
                        Not sure but they've started a thread in Biblical Languages 301 to discuss the matter.
                        "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                        "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                        • #13
                          Dead works refers to Judaism

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                            What does it refer to, then?
                            Trusting in one's own works.
                            . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

                            . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

                            Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Obsidian View Post
                              Dead works refers to Judaism
                              That cannot be right. Jesus taught salvation is of Judaism. (John 4:22.)
                              . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

                              . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

                              Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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