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Reacting to the Election

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  • Reacting to the Election

    As I said over in Civics, I went about 0 wins and 5 losses on my votes in the election. Now that I'm over my post-election funk, I'm thinking about how to respond to the election.

    I'm a conservative in a deep blue state and in a pretty blue county of the state. From what I can recall reading, I think only mossrose is in the same position as me. She has Trudeau and I have his sister Hochul. There have always been debates about how Christians should interact with the government. Usually, the discussions are somewhat abstract as none of the participants actually face hostility. For me, the debates are losing the abstractness and becoming more how should I now live. Certainly, I am in a state and supporting with my taxes, a government that I believe is taking society down the wrong road. Right now, NY is investigating crisis pregnancy centers. I'm wondering how long until they start investigating the supporters of crisis pregnancy centers. That certainly will lead right square into many churches plus parachurch ministries. Given how many churches in the state folded in the face of lockdown mandates, I'm not hopeful the churches will grow a spine.

    Certainly, I could move somewhere but maybe God wants me to stay here to be a witness. The Bible isn't a real help here as I can think of passages that say "go" and others that say "stay." I've always struggled with finding God's specific will for my life.

    Yes, I will continue to vote. However, it is looking like an exercise in futility if I expect things to change. Even getting involved in the Republican or Conservative parties will only match me up with like-minded people. Besides, I would rather work on building the kingdom of Heaven rather than an earthly institution. That leads me to think I have to focus on God.

    Which brings me to what should I do? The gifts of the Spirit can be divided into two categories: those that bring people into the church and those that build the church up. My gifting seems to be towards the later. It still doesn't get me to the specifics.

    Action plan, maybe? Spend less time posting in Civics. More time reading the Bible and in prayer. Developing patience, while I wait for God to open a door.

    Does any of this make sense?
    "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

    "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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    I just wanted to say I feel your pain here in Oregon. I had 0 wins as usual and we have another extreme leftist governor elected

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    • #3
      Just remember even if your side doesn't win, your vote cancels out one vote from the left, meaning one person on the other side's vote doesn't count either.

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      • #4
        I can't recall specifically who said it, but a Texan of some notoriety was welcoming displaced Californians to Texas - under the condition that they left their voting habits behind.
        "You should just assume going forward that if I am ever wrong it is a typo" - Backup
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        Reality simply does not change based upon consensus or desire." - rogue

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ronson View Post
          I can't recall specifically who said it, but a Texan of some notoriety was welcoming displaced Californians to Texas - under the condition that they left their voting habits behind.
          A Texan meeting his new neighbors



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          • #6
            Originally posted by Celebrian View Post
            I just wanted to say I feel your pain here in Oregon. I had 0 wins as usual and we have another extreme leftist governor elected
            I saw that several of your counties are moving forward with joining Idaho.
            That's what
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Just remember even if your side doesn't win, your vote cancels out one vote from the left, meaning one person on the other side's vote doesn't count either.
              These days, I don't think margin of victory matters. In my case, I fully expect Hochul to roar on with her agenda even though it appears distinctly unpopular with a good portion of NY.
              "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

              "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                I can't recall specifically who said it, but a Texan of some notoriety was welcoming displaced Californians to Texas - under the condition that they left their voting habits behind.
                I remember that. Right now, moving and especially a move of that distance doesn't seem to be in the cards.
                "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                  Action plan, maybe? Spend less time posting in Civics. More time reading the Bible and in prayer. Developing patience, while I wait for God to open a door.

                  Does any of this make sense?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

                    I remember that. Right now, moving and especially a move of that distance doesn't seem to be in the cards.
                    If New York is anything like California, be prepared to be harassed if/when you leave. Everyone I know that migrated out of California was hounded by the state's Franchise Tax Board after leaving, claiming they owed back taxes. They dinged my credit and made it difficult to get a driver's license in my new state, until I finally got hold of a sympathetic person in that agency that wiped it out. I didn't owe the state anything, but they were claiming I owed them some $1200 or so. Extortion against people who have difficultly fighting it from a distance, and where California has nothing to lose because the people have already left and won't be paying taxes there anymore. I hate California.
                    "You should just assume going forward that if I am ever wrong it is a typo" - Backup
                    "
                    Reality simply does not change based upon consensus or desire." - rogue

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                      I saw that several of your counties are moving forward with joining Idaho.
                      Yes, Eastern Oregon is very rural and red, but I don't know if they can actually join Idaho. My county is very blue, so like Thoughtful Monk, there isn't much I can do but pray and wait on the Lord.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

                        These days, I don't think margin of victory matters. In my case, I fully expect Hochul to roar on with her agenda even though it appears distinctly unpopular with a good portion of NY.
                        No doubt the Dems in general across the nation are going to roar ahead with their agenda, and that agenda is going to continue to be economic destruction. The people got what they voted for apparently and they're going to regret it. As far as politics, I'm with you and I think I'm going to back away from it pretty much moving forward, or at least not engage in it as much I've been. I think it's basically over for US conservatives, and I doubt they'll win another major election, not as long as this universal ballot system and system of lawlessness is in place. It's time to move on to more pressing spiritual matters IMO.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                          I can't recall specifically who said it, but a Texan of some notoriety was welcoming displaced Californians to Texas - under the condition that they left their voting habits behind.
                          Don't Californicate my Texas!
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                            I saw that several of your counties are moving forward with joining Idaho.
                            This is for real?
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              My reaction....

                              same thing for many other situations....

                              Work like it depends on you (vote)
                              Pray like it depends on God (and leave the results to Him)

                              Maybe we, as a Nation, haven't been judged enough?
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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