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Faith distributed by God in Romans 12

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  • Faith distributed by God in Romans 12

    For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.

    The part I'm interested in is the last part. What exactly does this mean? A friend of mine posted today that he thought this was a reference to Calvinism; specifically; God giving some people more faith than others. This doesn't seem right to me; the idea that everybody's level of faith is set in stone seems at odds with pretty much the entire New Testament encouraging us to grow in faith. But it's not so obvious to explain what it does mean instead.

    I suspect there's a connection with the next few verses, which talk about how everybody in the church has different roles. It may be a reference to God giving us different gifts. Yet the word used in 12:3 is "faith", not "gifts".
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    The first part of the verse informs us about the second. Don't think you have something others don't, God has given each of you faith.
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    • #3
      KG, you need to fix the title. All that happens when one clicks on it is that it brings up the Bible, not the thread.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mossrose View Post
        KG, you need to fix the title. All that happens when one clicks on it is that it brings up the Bible, not the thread.
        He fixed it.

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        • #5
          Thanks, KG.

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          • #6
            "I found a company" - Is this "I" founding a company or finding it? The word in Romans 12:3 is pisteoes, which has a range of meanings. The follow on verses indicate that the appropriate interpretation for "faith" in that context is "a trust."
            1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
            Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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              I think God gives everyone a measure of faith. That's one reason why I am not of the Calvinist bent.
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              • #8
                Hi, also to add that faith comes by hearing and hearing from the Word of God. So even if we get given a little measure we can increase it?


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                  I think God gives everyone a measure of faith. That's one reason why I am not of the Calvinist bent.
                  I agree and also with Esther. I believe God everyone a measure and then holds them accountable for what they do with it. The parable of the talents in Matthew 25:14-30 comes to mind in this context.

                  In the context of the OP, God gives everyone a measure of faith and they think about themselves based on that. As their faith increases, what they think of themselves and what God thinks of them should come closer into alignment.
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                  • #10
                    I believe that is part of the Holy Spirit's job indwelling us. To give us faith and hope and encouragement.


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