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    I've been reading about this online and have watched videos throughout the years, though I can neither confirm or deny the truthfulness of it. Since I don't attend church and am not a fan of organized establishment religion, I have no way to know how true it is based on experience. Of course conspiracy websites have taken this and run with it. Some of it sounds reasonably true, while some of it sounds pretty outlandish.

    From what I've read or heard, 501c3 churches and their pastors are given guidelines by government and recommended (or instructed) to pacify their congregants during times of crisis, persuade congregants to cooperate with government and accept government narratives without question, and quell any and all discussions of government dissent using Romans 13 as a proof text.

    Anyone with experience or knowledge about this can either confirm or deny this to be true?
    Last edited by mossrose; 06-12-2022, 09:32 PM.
    "What am I doing here?" -- Joe Biden 2021

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    Never heard of anything like this, and I've been in the ministry going on 50 years. Also been certified through FEMA CISM training, two independent chaplaincy trainings (one 40 hour accreditation) and both Baptist Relief, Salvation Army and Red Cross, certifications in all.

    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #3
      Well, I found this site which seems to reflect something pretty similar...

      https://police.fortworthtexas.gov/ge...olice-alliance

      The Clergy and Police Alliance program (C.A.P.A.) is a coalition of pastors who work in partnership with the police department to serve the citizens of Fort Worth. CAPA members attend monthly meetings, ride along with police officers, and are called in to help citizens in crisis. This program is a unique ministerial opportunity.

      CAPA members played a great part in the community outreach that occurred during the Katrina relief effort at Fort Worth shelters. On a day to day basis, CAPA members have ministered to hundreds of citizens in need. Our City has seen the awesome benefit that can be accessed through partnership with the pastors and ministers of our community. We invited you to become a CAPA member and extend your ministry outreach.

      CAPA members attend the Minister’s Police Academy at the Fort Worth Police/Fire Training Center. This is a special 12-week class for three hours a week, designed specifically for Pastors and Ministers, and includes specialized training that will indoctrinate you into the inner-workings of the police department and the Criminal Justice System. You will receive classroom and “hands on” training in the areas of Hate Crimes, Crime Scene search, Family Violence, Sex Crimes, Homicide investigation, traffic enforcement, narcotics training, communications, use of force, internal affairs, high risk incident command issues, firearms training, law, background investigation, and emergency response. After graduation you will ride with a designated officer to finish your training in a field environment scenario. Spending time with an officer will give you a better understanding of police operations before you act in the official capacity as a CAPA member. You will also be provided distinct clothing and official identification that will identify you as a CAPA member.

      Some of the goals of this program include: pray for our City, city leaders, police officers and special needs; assisting the police in non-traditional roles; provide calm in crisis situations to prevent an escalation to violence; assist in domestic situations where a minister is requested or needed; offer support to victims; relay factual information back to the neighborhoods using your established networks; and emergency and disaster response training through the Citizen Emergency Response Team (CERT).

      Our goal is to have a representative from every church, denomination, and faith from our city become involved.
      This is some of the stuff I've heard or read from even non-official sources. I guess the bolded part could be construed as potentially sinister depending on how the details are interpreted, how it actually looks in action, and how it's applied.
      "What am I doing here?" -- Joe Biden 2021

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      • #4
        Originally posted by seanD View Post
        Well, I found this site which seems to reflect something pretty similar...

        https://police.fortworthtexas.gov/ge...olice-alliance



        This is some of the stuff I've heard or read from even non-official sources. I guess the bolded part could be construed as potentially sinister depending on how the details are interpreted, how it actually looks in action, and how it's applied.
        Ah --- we DO have a county CERT team, of which I am not a part! I'll check with them.

        (And I'm fully aware that just because I've "been in the business" a long time doesn't mean I'd be aware of such)
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

          Ah --- we DO have a county CERT team, of which I am not a part! I'll check with them.

          (And I'm fully aware that just because I've "been in the business" a long time doesn't mean I'd be aware of such)
          I noticed I also spelled dissent wrong in the OP. Ah well.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by seanD View Post

            I noticed I also spelled dissent wrong in the OP. Ah well.
            I took the liberty of correcting it for you. Hope that was ok!


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            • #7
              Originally posted by mossrose View Post

              I took the liberty of correcting it for you. Hope that was ok!
              Thank you!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by seanD View Post

                Thank you!
                So, I asked one of the guys here at the Annual Meeting in Anaheim -- he splained that this was basically cities with... how do I say this gently....

                Where there are likely to be race riots or riots over police shootings or some other such chaos, it's an attempt to preempt or manage the riots by having black clergy involved in police review boards or committees or whatever. But it would be racist only to recruit black pastors...

                At least, that's the theory.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                  So, I asked one of the guys here at the Annual Meeting in Anaheim -- he splained that this was basically cities with... how do I say this gently....

                  Where there are likely to be race riots or riots over police shootings or some other such chaos, it's an attempt to preempt or manage the riots by having black clergy involved in police review boards or committees or whatever. But it would be racist only to recruit black pastors...

                  At least, that's the theory.
                  From what I understand, the program goes back to Katrina. I definitely remember folks discussing it many years ago and that it was connected to FEMA.
                  "What am I doing here?" -- Joe Biden 2021

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by seanD View Post

                    From what I understand, the program goes back to Katrina. I definitely remember folks discussing it many years ago and that it was connected to FEMA.
                    Interesting - the guy I talked to was a Katrina refugee who started a faith-based mission organization in our county. But that was his opinion, and I really don't know, so I'll shut up now.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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